I just can't agree there. I am done arguing about it, but I don't trust him anymore than the rest.
The Right hates him for not being sufficiently to the right and the Left hates him for selling us out. He'll go down as a bad (but being in the shadow of Bush, not terrible) president.
Agreed! And to be absolutely honest, I really don't see a "Captain" capable of righting our ship anytime soon. And that means looking right or left. Very depressing.
Thy'd need to tax everyone in this country (illegals included) over 100% (impossible) for years to pay off the debt. Unless our debt is forgiven, bankruptcy is the only way we have left. The Feds just don't want to go that way as it's political suicide.
Not sure how you could separate the two? Usually they come as a team?
For me his focus is too much on marketing. For example, spending so much time on the healthcare reform legislation to the exclusion of all else. Lack of balance. And trying to convince people of issues by making too many speeches. As well as spending too much money.
What would happen if the US should decide to declare bankruptcy? Is that realistically feasible?
No, but the Feds could declare all debts owed void (With our military and economic power, who'd stop us?) which amounts to the same thing. Nations have defaulted before.
:giggle: Radical... Left-Wing... Rigghhhtttt. It's the single greatest victory for the health insurance industry in it's history.
Strange, I never thought of him as being aggressive, as he does not look aggressive, but you are completely right. He did try and push the reform bill through aggressively, especially after the summer holidays. He made a mistake as his marketing lacked finesse. He underestimated the people he was dealing with, particularly the ones in his own Party. He also focussed overly on one issue in his list, like someone who puts too many eggs in one basket. Whereas if he had focussed on a number of other issues that had been doable, this would have been much better for his image.
We all knew the Healthcare thing was coming as he made mention of it repeatedly during the campaign. He's basically dragged his feet and let Pelosi and Congress take the lead on it and we all know how popular they are. I think had Obama really aggressively pushed the Healthcare initiative it could have made a difference. That being said he didn't, and its clearly been a failed presidency so far. There was certainly an understandable arrogance in the White House after a huge win sweeping into power. But I think we learned that arrogance will get you nowhere in this country no matter what even if you've earned that right. Not to mention you have to put it all into perspective. We've done without this Healthcare plan for the entirety of the existence of the United States. Forcing it through at a time when our Economy is suffering and we're severely in debt sounds every alarm in every American living room. That living room has translated into the streets and has costs at least 3 really big elections for the Democrats. In the U.S. its great to have a grand idea, but its meaningless if you have no way to institute that idea. I once said Obama needed to be more aggressive and he needed to be more bold. It may now be too late for that.
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I thought he had been EXTREMELY aggressive in his attempts to push the Bill through, right through to making the deal with Nebraska and making people sweat it on top of Xmas Eve. I can't see how he could have been more aggressive than he was.:unsure:
Agreed! Telling people their just too dumb to know how good it is was not real smart either. Then when they went "behind closed doors" like a pack of rats it just made it look deceitful and shady.
Right! I remember when it was reported that I thought how hard he was working for a Xmas present for his own ego, and how unXmas like and selfserving it had been right up to the last minute.
Well sure Obama touted the plan etc etc etc. But behind closed doors he had little involvement or so I've read. While the White House has seemingly taken center stage on the Economy and jobs creation he sort of left the job of pushing through the healthcare bill to Pelosi and Reid supposedly in an effort to not look like he was stepping over them. It really came across at least to me that Obama was way too disconnected. It was poorly planned, poorly explained and quite frankly the whole effort looked pretty lazy to me for the size and significance of such a bill. I guess I didn't use very good words when I said he didn't push for the bill enough, but he just didn't involve himself to the extent that he should have. The guy is really the only entity in Washington that is even remotely popular these days. You can already see the change in strategy though.
I am very disappointed. Obama has a political platform that I am in opposition to, I don't like controlling the private sector so that the government has more power. I don't like Obama's naive and totally inexperience in foreign policy, especially considering the Middle East and Obama's friendliness towards Hamas. And also his regulation plans, why should people pay more taxes because he wants to regulate their everyday life? I don't see this as reasonable, I see this, as Palin and other in the United States have mentioned, as a step towards socialism.
