Texas town allows Teacher to carry guns in school.

chris7375 · Dec 20, 2012

http://news.yahoo.com/texas-town-allows-teachers-carry-concealed-guns-081017416.html

I won't deny that I am all for this. I think this should be allowed at all schools. Those that argue the point by saying what if a teacher who is carrying a gun goes over the edge.

I won't deny that may happen but my argument is what about those that save their student body from someone like Adam Lanza.

I am willing to take that risk.

It has happened once already where an Asst. Principal save his student body from an armed student because he himself was armed.

Protectionist · Dec 20, 2012

chris7375 said:
I won't deny that I am all for this. I think this should be allowed at all schools. Those that argue the point by saying what if a teacher who is carrying a gun goes over the edge.

I won't deny that may happen but my argument is what about those that save their student body from someone like Adam Lanza.

I am willing to take that risk.

It has happened once already where an Asst. Principal save his student body from an armed student because he himself was armed.

I agree with you. If the unarmed teachers at the Sandy Hook school had been armed they could have stopped the carnage entirely or at least reduced it. What could they do while being unarmed ? News reports said they tried to stop the shooter, and were shot dead in the process.

It's reasonable to give guns to teachers, as long as they are thoroughly background checked, and one would hope that's happening already just in the hiring of them as teachers. It's not resonable to deny them the ability to protect themselves and their kids, because of some notion that they might go "over the edge". Cops, security guards, military soldiers, etc. all could go "over the edge" too, but they're not denied guns.

tecoyah · Dec 20, 2012

Protectionist said:
I agree with you. If the unarmed teachers at the Sandy Hook school had been armed they could have stopped the carnage entirely or at least reduced it. What could they do while being unarmed ? News reports said they tried to stop the shooter, and were shot dead in the process.

It's reasonable to give guns to teachers, as long as they are thoroughly background checked, and one would hope that's happening already just in the hiring of them as teachers. It's not resonable to deny them the ability to protect themselves and their kids, because of some notion that they might go "over the edge". Cops, security guards, military soldiers, etc. all could go "over the edge" too, but they're not denied guns.

It does not seem reasonable to me, to place more Guns in a place my children must go to. They know guns, understand them and will soon use them...but, they do not need to be dealing with them until "I" deem them ready.

I am sorry, but I think my ability to use a weapon is more trusting than Ms. Sandy, and I sure as hell do not want her packing anywhere near my kids.

chris7375 · Dec 20, 2012

tecoyah said:
It does not seem reasonable to me, to place more Guns in a place my children must go to. They know guns, understand them and will soon use them...but, they do not need to be dealing with them until "I" deem them ready.

I am sorry, but I think my ability to use a weapon is more trusting than Ms. Sandy, and I sure as hell do not want her packing anywhere near my kids.

I would have to disagree because had that teacher had a gun 20 students would be alive today. A woman can handle a gun just as well as a man.

Though you have to see the list of training the teachers must go through to be able to carry a gun in school.

ThirdTerm · Dec 20, 2012

It may be a good solution because it's too expensive for most schools to hire a full-time security guard and there should be at least one well-trained male teacher who carries a concealed weapon in every school to deter mass shooters who target schools as most of them belong to gun-free zones but young female teachers who directly deal with small children should not carry a gun because there are safety concerns.

Jessi · Dec 20, 2012

So long as it is done in a safe manner, I am all for this. As in, the gun shouldn't be stored loaded so the ammo needs to be separate. It should be kept in a place that kids do not frequent, etc. Gun safety techniques should be followed to the max to avoid accidents. Ultimately, it should be accessible if something happens and there is a threat to the student body, though.

misterveritis · Dec 20, 2012

tecoyah said:
It does not seem reasonable to me, to place more Guns in a place my children must go to. They know guns, understand them and will soon use them...but, they do not need to be dealing with them until "I" deem them ready.

I am sorry, but I think my ability to use a weapon is more trusting than Ms. Sandy, and I sure as hell do not want her packing anywhere near my kids.

The logical answer is to allow parents to decide whether or not they want their children slaughtered or protected. You have made your choice. Let others make theirs.

David · Dec 20, 2012

Give them the same training and psychological evaluations as cops and I'm all for this.

Protectionist · Dec 20, 2012

ThirdTerm said:
It may be a good solution because it's too expensive for most schools to hire a full-time security guard and there should be at least one well-trained male teacher who carries a concealed weapon in every school to deter mass shooters who target schools as most of them belong to gun-free zones but young female teachers who directly deal with small children should not carry a gun because there are safety concerns.

You might note that young females work as armed security guards, cops, and members of all the US military forces and many are serving in combat in Afghanistan right now. All carry guns, and are trained to use them.

chris7375 · Dec 20, 2012

ThirdTerm said:
It may be a good solution because it's too expensive for most schools to hire a full-time security guard and there should be at least one well-trained male teacher who carries a concealed weapon in every school to deter mass shooters who target schools as most of them belong to gun-free zones but young female teachers who directly deal with small children should not carry a gun because there are safety concerns.

No not really the weapon would be concealed. Perhaps a lock drawer so safety issues can always be resolved in someway.

chris7375 · Dec 20, 2012

David said:
Give them the same training and psychological evaluations as cops and I'm all for this.

From what I read of the other states thinking about doing this that is what will be done.

Smackz · Dec 21, 2012

That's Texas. If you ask me, this decision is brainless. It's completely unnecessary and unorthodox. The US really needs to work on keeping the guns OUT of civilian hands rather than INTO them.

blurinoctober · Dec 21, 2012

No. I do not agree with arming random civilians when they're spending everyday around young children. If just one person is neglectful, a child can get their hands on a gun and accidentally shoot themselves or someone else.

Arming a principal is one thing, as they're not in rooms full of young kids all day, but teachers are different. There are so many things that could go wrong if you give them guns.

tecoyah · Dec 21, 2012

Everyone who agrees with this idea....should say so, sign a document, and the first time a teacher goes off and blows away a kid be forced to write the parents an apology letter.

If you want Guns in school....use the damn national guard and pay for it in taxes....teachers have enough crap already.

David · Dec 21, 2012

tecoyah said:
Everyone who agrees with this idea....should say so, sign a document, and the first time a teacher goes off and blows away a kid be forced to write the parents an apology letter.

If you want Guns in school....use the damn national guard and pay for it in taxes....teachers have enough crap already.

By that logic, cops shouldn't have guns ether.

misterveritis · Dec 21, 2012

tecoyah said:
Everyone who agrees with this idea....should say so, sign a document, and the first time a teacher goes off and blows away a kid be forced to write the parents an apology letter.

No one can stop a murder. The goal is to stop mass killings. Get a grip.

If you want Guns in school....use the damn national guard and pay for it in taxes....teachers have enough crap already.

Why are you so solidly against freedom?
Why do you think it is your place to decide who can defend themselves and who cannot?

tecoyah · Dec 21, 2012

misterveritis said:
No one can stop a murder. The goal is to stop mass killings. Get a grip.

Why are you so solidly against freedom?
Why do you think it is your place to decide who can defend themselves and who cannot?

On the contrary...I love my freedom, and yours. Ever stop to think this "Freedom" might also entail a certain belief that my child is safe?

I understand there is a slim risk of a not job going off in my kids school...obviously.

I am uncomfortable with the risk becoming an everyday thing because I sent my kid to a place heavily armed by people I do not trust with weapons.

misterveritis · Dec 21, 2012

Who decides?

tecoyah said:
On the contrary...I love my freedom, and yours. Ever stop to think this "Freedom" might also entail a certain belief that my child is safe?

I understand there is a slim risk of a not job going off in my kids school...obviously.

I am uncomfortable with the risk becoming an everyday thing because I sent my kid to a place heavily armed by people I do not trust with weapons.

Okay. So you get to decide for yourself. Awesome.

And every teacher should also be able to decide. They have a right to defend themselves even if you choose to sign a consent decree telling them not to protect your child under any circumstance.

bluefig · Dec 22, 2012

I think it's a fine idea. Gun free zones are really innocent victim zones. Misterveritis, I hadn't thought about the teacher's right to self defense, too. Great point. Teachers are entrusted with the lives of their students, so they should be able to arm themselves.

I don't get the people who don't think women can use firearms. Anyone who believes that should come to the gun range with me, sometime.

Another good consequence of this type of approach is that if it gets going in many public schools then laws for school choice would rapidly be passed! That settles it for me. I want this to become common practice across the land!

clax · Dec 22, 2012

tecoyah said:
On the contrary...I love my freedom, and yours. Ever stop to think this "Freedom" might also entail a certain belief that my child is safe?

I understand there is a slim risk of a not job going off in my kids school...obviously.

I am uncomfortable with the risk becoming an everyday thing because I sent my kid to a place heavily armed by people I do not trust with weapons.

The risk is every day, your kids get on the bus, its next to cars that are themselves weapons, with drivers that may have pistols, they go to grocery stores with people that may have guns and they are not in the profession of catering four children. The risk is there every moment of every day, it is just an illusion that it isn't there at schools, why discriminate against teachers, why not say anybody can not have a gun around children I used to teach gun safety and shooting skills to children, I had hundreds of guns around kids I was a teacher. Nobody got hurt our even threatened.

So the presenceof a gun isn't a threat or a risk. If a teacher wants to murder children they will not suit there and say, "I may loose my job if I take this gun to school, so I guess I can't kill my students, oh how I wish it were legal to carry a hub at school then I could legally kill my students". This is the silliest logic I have come across

Texas town allows Teacher to carry guns in school.

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