The Bush Legacy

myp · Jan 17, 2009

With George Bush's term all but over, how do you think his legacy will go down in history? Keep in mind that the fact that he is unpopular now does not tell us anything about how history will see him because it usually takes at least a couple of decades before the outcomes of a president's actions can really be seen. This thread is simply for predictions. What do you think?

Rick · Jan 17, 2009

I think this depends greatly on the outcome of the war.

Until conflicts in the middle east have come to cease then we wont actually know the full results on how he will be seen in decades to come.

I do however think that right now at this moment in time it doesn't look good for him I mean as you said he is so unpopular with people right now but being president is not easy and as I have said in other posts a lot of pressure falls on people in power that's life and it wasn't an easy decision for him to make and I think things would have been bad no matter what he decided to do.

Rick

GunnedDown · Jan 17, 2009

Well the war won't exist anymore as Obama promised to pull back all his troops if he was to be elected.

As for Bush, he did a good job (he tried his best at least.. give him a break

), so yeah, there's nothing much to predict. He may be unpopular with people in the states right now, but my prediction is that people will realise how much of a hard time you guys gave him, and you'll eventually forget about it and only hope for the best of the future.

Go Obama!

Creativeelement · Jan 17, 2009

I to think that it depends on what the outcome of the war will be. But I also think that in the end his legacy will be a negative one because he really hasn't contributed to anything positive. And if he has please tell me and point them out.

GunnedDown · Jan 17, 2009

Wait what war are you guys exactly talking about? I live in Canada right now, so I just want to check if I'm on the same page as you guys are on.. Didn't know the war was so important right now..

I mean I didn't know the outcome of that small little war will dictate anything that will happen

, so my question is what war are you guys talking about? Thanks

Akuma · Jan 17, 2009

If for some odd reason the war he started actually ends up with a really big positive outcome, then he might be seen as a decent President. Otherwise he will probably be considered one of the many mediocre Presidents America has had to deal with.

jessika · Jan 18, 2009

I think in Bush's case, he will be reminded as a President who was not able to carry on the legacy of being a president in a true sense, for the sake of carrying on his relations with the anti-social elements. His intentions have come out in the form of his several incidences for which he has no justification. And i don't think next generations will take much time to recognize what kind of a personality he was.

omej · Jan 18, 2009

Bush's legacy doesn't look good at all at the moment. However, post presidential work can do wonders.

Jimmy Carter was arguably as bad as Bush and left office with a terrible approval rating in a sweep to Reagan, however as of several weeks ago his approval rating was 64%. That's higher than George H.W. Bush (60%) and almost as high as Clinton (69%)

However, that's just the possibility. In my opinion, during his presidency, Bush has never shown the initiative or the ability to change from his stubborn view of things. Unless he changes his views in his post-presidency, I don't see much chance.

GunnedDown · Jan 18, 2009

Well assuming that his views are "stubborn" and that he never changed his view of things, is quite stubborn of you.. lol Anyways, I understand how you said Clinton did do a better job than Bush (well that's obvious), but I don't think Bush did that bad as a president himself, he's just underrated because of the circumstances he was put into. He just came in at the wrong time. I'm sure people will realize how much of an effort he put into, because it's not like he wanted people to hate him on purpose. So he's not very well known right now, but we'll see what happens.

mike21 · Jan 18, 2009

The shoe incident proves how popular he is among muslim,.besides, the history will remember him as a president who is responsible for do many people's deaths a president who demolished iraq on the name of weapons of mass destruction which by the were never found.the legacy of bush is a shame for the white house and no noble person would like to remember him.

Akuma · Jan 19, 2009

His national security movement is probably the best he did, although he didn't execute it properly however he did take action to secure the nation. Whether he took the right approach in doing so, can be argued as I believe he used illegal wiretapping and other means which obviously upset some people. But at least he did appear to secure the nation in that sense. As for the war, people wanted revenge and they got it - or at least they thought so..

omej · Jan 19, 2009

GunnedDown said:
Well assuming that his views are "stubborn" and that he never changed his view of things, is quite stubborn of you.. lol Anyways, I understand how you said Clinton did do a better job than Bush (well that's obvious), but I don't think Bush did that bad as a president himself, he's just underrated because of the circumstances he was put into. He just came in at the wrong time. I'm sure people will realize how much of an effort he put into, because it's not like he wanted people to hate him on purpose. So he's not very well known right now, but we'll see what happens.

Well, if you can name some major policy shifts, i'll change my mind.

The Parakeet · Jan 19, 2009

I basically echo Akuma. If Iraq and Afghanistan are bastions of freedom and modern thought in 20 years, then he'll be a hero who pushed through with a brave plan despite the unenlightened people of the time who naysayed the position.

If it falls apart or stagnates, then he'll be a mediocre president along the lines of Carter who will only be remembered as the guy who started the 2nd Gulf War.

GunnedDown · Jan 20, 2009

mike21 said:
The shoe incident proves how popular he is among muslim,.besides, the history will remember him as a president who is responsible for do many people's deaths a president who demolished iraq on the name of weapons of mass destruction which by the were never found.the legacy of bush is a shame for the white house and no noble person would like to remember him.

The shoe incident doesn't prove anything IMO.. you can't base a simple incident and think that their whole group is like that, it was just one single person that craved attention and decided to throw a shoe at Bush. Had it hit him, he would've got into big trouble, thank God George Bush knows how to dodge (lol pun).

But I still agree.. I think he was one of the main reasons for so many deaths in Iraq.. thank God Obama agreed to not send any more soldiers there

pingpong12 · Jan 24, 2009

His investigation on 9-11 was a joke and also Osama never admitted to 9-11. One of the few things I did agree with Obama on is getting out of Iraq. That is allready more then everything I agree with Bush on.

GunnedDown · Jan 24, 2009

pingpong12 said:
His investigation on 9-11 was a joke and also Osama never admitted to 9-11. One of the few things I did agree with Obama on is getting out of Iraq. That is allready more then everything I agree with Bush on.

Actually, Osama did admit to being part of the 9/11 attacks.. try reading this

, guess you never read about it yet.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_11,_2001_attacks I agree with the other points you made though.. the investigation was bogus, and Bush = win!

omej · Jan 24, 2009

mike21 said:
The shoe incident proves how popular he is among muslim,.besides, the history will remember him as a president who is responsible for do many people's deaths a president who demolished iraq on the name of weapons of mass destruction which by the were never found.the legacy of bush is a shame for the white house and no noble person would like to remember him.

Not necessarily. History has a tendency to be kind to our presidents. Jimmy Carters approval ratings right now are around 64%, far higher than when he left office. Of course most of that is attributed to his post presidential work, but it still changes the way you remember him.

pingpong12 · Jan 24, 2009

GunnedDown said:
Actually, Osama did admit to being part of the 9/11 attacks.. try reading this , guess you never read about it yet.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_11,_2001_attacks I agree with the other points you made though.. the investigation was bogus, and Bush = win!

Im sorry but he originally claimed many times that he had nothing to do with 9-11 and some tape is brought into al jazeer's office in 2004 claiming its bin laden who now claims responsibility for the attack? Are you ok man. Bin Laden has never done an attack on anyone without 100% claiming responsibility for the attack beforehand. Why would the guy wait 3 full years then change his mind about claiming responsibility for the attack? Is it out of fear?????? The guy doesnt care about life (even his own), why would he do a kerry flip-flop and claim responsibility. http://physics911.net/kevinbarrett

myp · Jan 27, 2009

omeythehomie said:
Not necessarily. History has a tendency to be kind to our presidents. Jimmy Carters approval ratings right now are around 64%, far higher than when he left office. Of course most of that is attributed to his post presidential work, but it still changes the way you remember him.

History hasn't been kind to all of our presidents. There are plenty who ended with worse ratings than they had previously. A large part is due to how a president's policies and appointments play out over time because many of the changes that presidents make effect the country for longer than their time in office. Changes in political philosophy and theories also lead to changes in how a president is viewed.

pingpong12 · Jan 27, 2009

I would like to see how much change Obama is interested in. I hope he will start with the patriot act

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