The United States Of Israel --Shalom.

myp said:

Well the truth is that it did happen. But, if a nutjob like you submitted an article that it wasn't true, nothing would happen. WaPo editors would not post it and even if the government found out you would not be arrested. the Laroche people always say ridiculous things like that and in the street during political events too and are fine. Because of the 1st amendment.

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Fascist Canuck said:

Then, I challenge you to put up flyers denying the Holocaust.

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myp said:

No I won't because the Halocaust did happen and I am not a nutcase. But there are people that do it and don't get in trouble for it. Again, I have had the displeasure of seeing them in person- the Laroche crowd.

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Fascist Canuck said:

I dare you to submit an article to the Washington Post, challenging the truth about the so-called Holocaust. You'll be doing 10 - 20 in a State penitentiary.

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Comet said:

Are you a Holocaust denier?

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Fascist Canuck said:

Then, I challenge you to put up flyers denying the Holocaust.

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skeptic-f said:

Leaving aside all the evidence that shows the Holocaust happened, I would ask Fascist Canuck two questions. First - If the Holocaust didn't happen, where did all those European Jews (especially East European Jews and especially especially Polish Jews) go? Did they magically disappear when the Nazi fairy waved a magic wand? Simple math of known populations before and after WW2 (including Displaced Persons) leaves an absolute minimum of four and a half million missing Jews (and women and children don't serve in the military), and potentially double that figure at maximum. It must be just a coincidence that the figure given for Holocaust victims falls inbetween those two figures.

Second - your beloved Nazis were a totalitarian regime (feel free to look up the definition) just like its arch-enemies the Stalinist Russians. Since Stalin should be well known for the hundreds of thousands he murdered and the millions he had worked to death in the gulag camps, why would the Nazi regime be less ruthless than the Stalinist regime? They do seem to have been more efficient at killing, but if they had had a Siberia to dump brutal work camps down in they probably would have been happy to follow the Soviet example.

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Patrick said:

They have a facile fact-free, logic-free invention for anything you can say on the subject.

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myp said:

Kind of like you when it comes to discussing any policies that you don't support

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Patrick said:

Here I'm agreeing with you on something, and you don't miss the opportunity for a snotty remark.

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Comet said:

Are you a Holocaust denier?

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Patrick said:

Take my word for it, you're wasting your time arguing with a Holocaust denier. He'll just say something like the jews were killed in allied bombing raids. They have a facile fact-free, logic-free invention for anything you can say on the subject.

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skeptic-f said:

Leaving aside all the evidence that shows the Holocaust happened, I would ask Fascist Canuck two questions. First - If the Holocaust didn't happen, where did all those European Jews (especially East European Jews and especially especially Polish Jews) go? Did they magically disappear when the Nazi fairy waved a magic wand? Simple math of known populations before and after WW2 (including Displaced Persons) leaves an absolute minimum of four and a half million missing Jews (and women and children don't serve in the military), and potentially double that figure at maximum. It must be just a coincidence that the figure given for Holocaust victims falls inbetween those two figures.

Second - your beloved Nazis were a totalitarian regime (feel free to look up the definition) just like its arch-enemies the Stalinist Russians. Since Stalin should be well known for the hundreds of thousands he murdered and the millions he had worked to death in the gulag camps, why would the Nazi regime be less ruthless than the Stalinist regime? They do seem to have been more efficient at killing, but if they had had a Siberia to dump brutal work camps down in they probably would have been happy to follow the Soviet example.

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The Red Cross issued a massive, three volume, 1,600 page report on the camps after the war, part of which reads: "In the final moths of the war, the camps received no food supplies at all and starvation claimed an increasing number of victims." ... Gen. Kaltenbrunner. . . Allowed the Red Cross to distribute relief packages and one (Red Cross) delegate was authorized to stay in each camp (as an observer). Does this sound like a holocaust?

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The World Almanac for 1947, in quoting figures supplies by the American Jewish Committee states that the world Jewish population in 1939 was 15,688,259. The New York Times of February 22, 1948, stated that the world Jewish population ranged from 15,600,000 to 18,700,000, excluding some 600,000 to 700,000 living in Palestine. How could the Jewish population have increased so rapidly after losing six million during World War II? Walter Sanning, the author of Dissolution of European Jewry, says that no less than 2,200,000 Jews had emigrated out of Europe leaving 2,847,000 Jews residing there at the height of the German occupation in June 1941. After the war, 3,375,000 Jews, according to the Red Cross, applied for holocaust reparations. This figure included many of the emigrants. Thus, the actual number of those who died at the camps from all causes ranges between 150,000 and 300,000

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BETWEEN 1988 AND 2000, according to Jew sources, THE WORLDWIDE SUPPLY OF Jews PLUNGED FROM 18.1 TO 13.2. FINALLY, Jews HAVE PROOF OF A HOLOCAUST! But there was no war. The Nazis are long gone. In the midst of peacetime, the Jews LOST 4.9 million people, and still haven't been able to locate them. Could it be that they need a war in Iraq to increase the Jewish population back to 18 million? On top of that, the 2000 figure for Jews in the world included 6.7 million in the US when in fact there may have been only 5.2 million. The Jews in the US, with all the modern techniques for counting populations and handling membership lists, a first class mail delivery system, no war or insurrection or gas ovens or mass graves, were unable to pin down their population to within 1.5 million Jews--an error of 29%!

"The study's credibility became an issue last October after part of its findings on population was released and then withdrawn because some field data were not factored into the 5.2-million population estimate. At the same time, another study by a San Francisco-based group — using a broader definition of who was Jewish — placed the population at 6.7 million. But after reevaluating its methodology and findings, UJC said Wednesday that it stood by the 5.2-million figure."

These folks, who didn't have the brains to use modern techniques for estimating their own population to within an accuracy of 6.4 million Jews, during peacetime, are the very same folks who claimed that they knew precisely, for certain, without ANY doubt, with such certitude that they had hundreds or thousands of people EXECUTED for denying it, that 6 million Jews were missing during Nazi persecution, world war, massive Jew migration, and the death or disappearance of 264 million CHRISTIANS!

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