United States, Russia to make nuclear weapon cuts

myp · Mar 26, 2010

The United States and Russia have agreed on a new deal to cut a significant portion of each countries nuclear and weapon arsenals. The agreement comes after months of negotiating and includes cutting the long range nuclear arsenals of both countries by about one third. The cuts are still pending votes by the Senate in the US and the State Duma in Russia.

More here: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100326/ap_on_go_pr_wh/russia_us_nuclear

Thoughts?

Dirk · Mar 26, 2010

Good.

That is all.

Zakalwe · Mar 27, 2010

Irrelevant. Unless there is total disarmament, making cuts is merely a display of goodwill. It does not make the world any safer, and they will STILL maintain an arsenal great enough to annhiliate the world many times over. What they should be doing is agreeing to work together to end international greed and poverty paving the way to a world at peace. /idealism.

Dirk · Mar 27, 2010

Zakalwe said:
Irrelevant. Unless there is total disarmament, making cuts is merely a display of goodwill. It does not make the world any safer, and they will STILL maintain an arsenal great enough to annhiliate the world many times over. What they should be doing is agreeing to work together to end international greed and poverty paving the way to a world at peace. /idealism.

Top marks for the idealist, then.

deanhills · Mar 28, 2010

Zakalwe said:
Irrelevant. Unless there is total disarmament, making cuts is merely a display of goodwill. It does not make the world any safer, and they will STILL maintain an arsenal great enough to annhiliate the world many times over. What they should be doing is agreeing to work together to end international greed and poverty paving the way to a world at peace. /idealism.

I would agree with this one. I see it as playing games only, and I'm sure before these guys reduced nuclear missiles on both sides, that they had already worked out how they are going to make the missiles that are remaining, do the work of those that had been reduced.

Dirk · Mar 28, 2010

It's nothing like what's required by the NPT, but it's good that there will be fewer of these horrible weapons.

deanhills · Mar 28, 2010

Dirk said:
It's nothing like what's required by the NPT, but it's good that there will be fewer of these horrible weapons.

How does fewer really make a difference? They still kill in the millions at a time.

Zakalwe · Mar 28, 2010

deanhills said:
They still kill in the millions at a time.

Which is why this weapon system is now practically worthless. The chance of there ever being a WWIII nuke-armageddon-fest scenario is practically zero on account of the end of the Cold War. Future Wars are wars for resources, and you don't want to irradiate all that potential for exploitation.

Dirk · Mar 28, 2010

deanhills said:
How does fewer really make a difference? They still kill in the millions at a time.

Because it means we can get rid of the last ones quicker if ever we get to that glorious point.

David · Mar 28, 2010

deanhills said:
How does fewer really make a difference? They still kill in the millions at a time.

Some people think they can nuke the other side and not get hit back by wiping out the other side's nukes before they launch. So the possibility exists, all you needs is someone like that to take over a gov't (as has happened in France and Russia, both of which now have 1st strike policies).

Good thing nothing like that happened during the Cold War, the Soviets built a Doom's Day Devise that would fire all it's nukes at once at the 1st sign of a nuke detonation. Thank god a major astroid never made a visit to the USSR...

Dirk · Mar 29, 2010

David said:
Some people think they can nuke the other side and not get hit back by wiping out the other side's nukes before they launch. So the possibility exists, all you needs is someone like that to take over a gov't (as has happened in France and Russia, both of which now have 1st strike policies).

So does NATO.

deanhills · Mar 30, 2010

Dirk said:
Because it means we can get rid of the last ones quicker if ever we get to that glorious point.

I don't understand what you mean. How would that be possible? How do we know that it has been actually/or will be actually implemented?

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