US-Israel relations getting shakier after administration's comments

David said:

The Egyptian ship they claimed to have mistaken it for was twice the size, the Liberty identified herself and the gov't told the Israelis that we had a ship in the area.

They didn't want us snooping around and so attacked then, being as they had attacked an ally, they came up with that blatantly false excuse and tried to buy off the families of the killed crewman. Do you really think the skipper would of gotten the MoH if it was otherwise? It was a thinly vailed warning to Israel that we knew they were BSing us as much as it was to honer him.

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chuck schmidt said:

Was it as bad as a cruiser illegally in another nation's coastal waters shooting down a civil airliner full of passengers in their airspace killing over 200 passengers including over 65 children, then saying they thought it was a much smaller F14? [URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655 [/URL]

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deanhills said:

If that were true, then the Israelis would have admitted it openly. They are like that. Fearless. If they had covered up a conspiracy like you claim there to be, then their own people would have taken the Israeli government apart. I genuinely believe it was unintentional. As I have said, if it had been intentional, the Israelis would have immediately admitted that and spoken loudly about it.
I never think one bad action makes another bad action good. Accidents happen. People make bad mistakes.

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chuck schmidt said:

If you read some of the arguments, the US ship was known by the Israelis to be there, flew US flags, was circled by Israeli jets for a while before they attacked while constantly radioing who they were, and whose white crew stood on the upper deck smiling and waving at the Israelis before the attack. Yes it might have been an accident. Equally it might not have been. Why? Who knows what secret disputes were going on? Maybe the US was trying to dissuade the Israelis from attacking Egypt and this was Israel's way of saying "mind your own business"? The Israelis knew they could get away with it without being attacked in return by America.

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deanhills said:

Right, there were many arguments for and against, but it it is a fact that Israel is an ally of the US. So when they weighed those arguments, they must have done that from a positive point of view.

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chuck schmidt said:

Meaning that they decided to positively beat the living sh!t out of the US ship?

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deanhills said:

I'm going for common sense here. If there had really been a hostile act intended against the United States, do you think the United States Government would have forgiven it?

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David said:

Who do you think payed for their election? Besides, the Arabs were in the Soviet camp, we needed an ally in the region. If they pulled something like that today... Lets just say the Arabs would be eating popcorn with a smile on their face as they watched us put them in their place.

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deanhills said:

I'm not sure I get it. Paid for whose election?

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deanhills said:

I'm going for common sense here. If there had really been a hostile act intended against the United States, do you think the United States Government would have forgiven it?

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