Will Khāmene?i flee Iran?
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The protesters will certainly continue what they are doing (at least at first)- I think there is little disagreement about that. The real worry is what will happen on the government side with some predicting that it will move to an official military state, which would of course mean more brutality against the people. If that does happen, let's hope that the Iranian people can hold their ground and keep going.
Thomas Jefferson's quotation really comes to mind in this situation, "The tree of liberty must from time to time be refreshed with the blood of patriots and tyrants."
Thomas Jefferson's quotation really comes to mind in this situation, "The tree of liberty must from time to time be refreshed with the blood of patriots and tyrants."
I just hope Israel doesn't screw this up by attacking. The protestors would suddenly side with the gov't due to having a common enemy and you can kiss our oil and Mideast naval presence goodbye.
If we can judge from past experience I would bet they will attack. And the US does not have the pull with them it had a few years ago.
Lets just hope we pull our naval forces out before it all hits the fan, the Iranians are more then capable of sending our fleet to the bottom, especially in an area like that.
Sure it does. Just tell them if they attack, you won't send them any more free fighter jets paid for out of the pockets of American taxpayers.
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And they'll call BS. And they'll be right.
Until we elect an openly anti-Zionist gov't (ya, riggggght
) we'll be their slaves.
They don't like or respect Obama anymore than I do. And they know when push comes to shove we can't abandon them.
Well, yah. I was making the presumption that your leaders had the balls to stand up to the Israel lobby. Which, of course, is highly unlikely, since they pay a good chunk of their campaign money.
Well, you could. It would just mean they have to be nice to people, rather than annexing their neighbours' lands.
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But as comrade David says, it's highly unlikely.
With this government who can tell what they are doing? I really don't have a lot of confidence in leadership at the CIA.
Hasn't the US intervened in Iran enough? Come on, you saw what happened last time the CIA involved itself in Iranian internal poitics.
I'm absolutely sure there is some involvement, however indirect it may be. At this point in time, any change in leadership would probably be better than the current one.
Iran is continuing to develop nuclear weapons and if we don't attack them first, Israel will. Unfortunately at this point, a conflict is all but inevitable.
Hopefully there will be another revolution but Mahmoud has quite a bit of support himself. If things turn violent, it honestly looks like it could be a bloody civil war.
If it come to war, we're screwed, at least at 1st. Say goodbye to our naval presence in the PG (due to retreat or sinking) for starts.
Has any of that in any of the other countries where the CIA has been doing similar stuff discouraged the CIA from contuing? I'm almost certain their reasoning would be "this time we need to do it better". Better meaning that they are providing more indirect support of the invisible category, than paying people to show up at rallies. I don't have a real clue however, and am just guessing loudly. I must say I am really surprised that the Iranians have allowed themselves to be suppressed as long as they have. More than 20 years?
Ahmedinejad is all rhetoric and very little foreign intervention (except funding some religious fundamentalist groups). I doubt the opposition would be much better.
Oh, longer than that. Iran came into existence in 1935. They were invaded sometime during the Second World War (i forget which year) by Britain and the Soviet Union. Then America emplaced a tyrannical regime in '53. There was the Islamic Revolution in '79, which replaced the tyrannical US supported r?gime with another tyrannical r?gime, which wasn't.
So, pretty much constantly since '53.
I can leave a hint as to why the Middle East is so chaotic at the moment: where have all the old secular nationalist states gone?
Power struggles have always been part of society. I don't think much as changed, except the players and some of their issues.
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