Democrats revealing the Assault Weapons Ban today.

[tecoyah]

...snip...

They were naive to the fact that they were being targeted as well, why would you find that interesting. I find your confusion here a tad odd, it's rather commonplace in these incidents.

I suppose my confusion concerns the transition to a conversation with you about my naive nature about personal enemies from a discussion with someone else about which politicians voted for an assault weapons ban.

Added to it might be a different understanding of what a personal enemy entails to begin with, as I do not consider something personal unless it directly involves me.

 

[Stonewall]

I suppose my confusion concerns the transition to a conversation with you about my naive nature about personal enemies from a discussion with someone else about which politicians voted for an assault weapons ban.

Added to it might be a different understanding of what a personal enemy entails to begin with, as I do not consider something personal unless it directly involves me.

See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil, huh?

Good luck with that, I don't suppose it would make any difference if I told you that's a tried and failed process?

 

[Stonewall]

You don't understand science if you think science can be politically driven (the moment it becomes politically driven, it stops being science). You don't understand Federal scientific funding for basic research if you think it is politically driven.

Oh I see. If I don't see that science cannot be politically driven.....it is I who doesn't understand? Uhhh...yeah. Moving on.

You are the one who thinks you know everything- that it is your way of the highway. So yes, I define that as egotistical. It is not your opinion I have an issue with- it is the insistence that it is more than opinion- that you are right, just because of some loose correlations you have. I don't know whether or not you know it, but the other side has the same type of correlations. Which is why stronger studies are needed.

I couldn't care less what you think you're defining, ego or not. Stronger studies aren't needed(speaking of thinking you know all including what's 'needed'), it's throwing money and your version of 'science' at a problem that clearly has a cultural rot issue at its' core.

We disagree 100% on this one, you are correct. It's not that I think I'm right, it's that I'm dead on posittive your opinion is wrong.

 

[myp]

it's that I'm dead on posittive your opinion is wrong.

Yea you think you are completely right. Apparently deadon, 100%. Point proven.

Science>your intuition or mine. Think the studies were done wrong? Argue the methodology, not the people or the funders. That is how science works.

 

[Stonewall]

Today's politically driven emotion and thought process often concludes with them mistakenly thinking science applied after billions of dollars has been invested is necessary. Some people believe the global warming hoax as well, your opinions aren't science myp, I think you mistakenly think they are.

Political poppycock isn't science.

 

[misterveritis]

Gun Violence Research

Gun violence research?

Who cannot look and easily see that handguns are responsible from 60 to 75% of the violence. The number of suicides, the number of homicides, what cultural decay can be seen where gun violence occurs, a common denominator being no father in the home for example.

Why do we need to do research, we know what the problems are and we know we're too afraid to confront them. This is political poppycock and you've fallen right for it.

I examine the title of what is intended and recognize that to accept the words the enemies of freedom use most certainly means I will be stuck with my enemies "scientific" results.

Instead of gun violence research maybe we really need defensive gun use research. We need to go on the offensive against the anti-Constitutional forces that are gathering about us. If we do not we will discover that a backroom deal between Marxist liberals and statist Republicans have once again left the American citizen vulnerable once again.

 

[misterveritis]

Enemies. Tecoyah is unaware he has them

If you say so....okay. I do however find it interesting that the term "Personal Enemies", seems to include worldwide terrorists I have never met and likely have no idea who I am.

Why do you separate out the people you know who want to do you harm from the far greater number who do not know you but still want to harm you?

It is not the one bullet with your name on it that you need to consider but the ten thousand fragments of that artillery shell labeled "Occupant" who will do you the most harm.

They do not care who you are as long as your bloody body makes the televised news.

 

[misterveritis]

Nearly All science is politically driven

You don't understand science if you think science can be politically driven (the moment it becomes politically driven, it stops being science). You don't understand Federal scientific funding for basic research if you think it is politically driven.

Nearly all science funded by federal dollars through the vast regulatory agencies is politically driven. Deep down inside you know this is true even if it fails to fit your liberal narrative.

 

[myp]

Today's politically driven emotion and thought process often concludes with them mistakenly thinking science applied after billions of dollars has been invested is necessary. Some people believe the global warming hoax as well, your opinions aren't science myp, I think you mistakenly think they are.

Political poppycock isn't science.

Your failure to understand scientific methodology says enough. Attack the methodology, not the funding/funders because when you do the latter it doesn't mean anything- someone on the other side can do just the same (the pro gun lobby outspent the anti gun lobby 10x this last election; Koch bros; etc.)

 

[myp]

Nearly all science funded by federal dollars through the vast regulatory agencies is politically driven. Deep down inside you know this is true even if it fails to fit your liberal narrative.

Proof? Or is it just more intuitive know-it-allism?

And regardless of what you say, when you see all these drugs, etc. that had some foundation in basic research funded by Federal dollars, it becomes quite clear that that research does seem to do good. Again, attack the methodology if it is bad, not the funders.

 

[clax]

Nearly all science funded by federal dollars through the vast regulatory agencies is politically driven. Deep down inside you know this is true even if it fails to fit your liberal narrative.

This is just hyperbole, some people beat that drum that people don't understand if we don't agree. Its really a way of conceding.

there are better hobbies like chewing broken glass than attempting to debate some people.

 

[clax]

Gun violence research?

Who cannot look and easily see that handguns are responsible from 60 to 75% of the violence. The number of suicides, the number of homicides, what cultural decay can be seen where gun violence occurs, a common denominator being no father in the home for example.

Why do we need to do research, we know what the problems are and we know we're too afraid to confront them. This is political poppycock and you've fallen right for it.

Actually no gun is responsible for any crime what so ever, but I think that is the statement you were making.

You don't need any research, its as common as common sense gets. Only killers kill people. The pseudo intellectual attempt to skew reality with "research" that suggests what is, isn't us a clear indicator that the party citing such "research" has lost the debate.

But make no mistake this gun control isn't at all about safty, that is the PC huey that is used to get people who don't think to support the stripping of our rights.

Gun control is about the traitor in office being your king and all the traitors in the legislative branch having dominion over you. Just defy them, they are not the rulers we are. Keep your guns, order the vaults on the Web and bury them with four thousands rounds of ammo in your yard.

The chumps in the government are our subjects, we must continue to tell each other this and teach it to or children even if the schools will not. We must believe this, in our hearts. if they don't won our hearts and minds then they have lost.

There are millions upon millions of guns in the hands of the people, we hold all the cards. No army could take us, besides I am what is called a patriot, most of the military is made up of patriots. So don't worry, and don't bother with quizzical unarmed people they are not even remotely a threat.

 

[tecoyah]

Actually no gun is responsible for any crime what so ever, but I think that is the statement you were making.

You don't need any research, its as common as common sense gets. Only killers kill people. The pseudo intellectual attempt to skew reality with "research" that suggests what is, isn't us a clear indicator that the party citing such "research" has lost the debate.

But make no mistake this gun control isn't at all about safty, that is the PC huey that is used to get people who don't think to support the stripping of our rights.

Gun control is about the traitor in office being your king and all the traitors in the legislative branch having dominion over you. Just defy them, they are not the rulers we are. Keep your guns, order the vaults on the Web and bury them with four thousands rounds of ammo in your yard.

The chumps in the government are our subjects, we must continue to tell each other this and teach it to or children even if the schools will not. We must believe this, in our hearts. if they don't won our hearts and minds then they have lost.

There are millions upon millions of guns in the hands of the people, we hold all the cards. No army could take us, besides I am what is called a patriot, most of the military is made up of patriots. So don't worry, and don't bother with quizzical unarmed people they are not even remotely a threat.

I simply cannot resist....and apologize ahead of time for any offense you take to what follows.

I had mentioned that someone disobeying the Supreme court decisions that define much of our Constitution borders on being a traitor. You then decided my comment was directed at you, and that I actually called you a traitor, to which I replied you were mistaken....to no avail.

You then claim our President is a traitor, as is some king in the legislature.


By Far....the best example of a double standard and misuse of rational thought I have seen in some time.

 

[clax]

I simply cannot resist....and apologize ahead of time for any offense you take to what follows.

I had mentioned that someone disobeying the Supreme court decisions that define much of our Constitution borders on being a traitor. You then decided my comment was directed at you, and that I actually called you a traitor, to which I replied you were mistaken....to no avail.

You then claim our President is a traitor, as is some king in the legislature.


By Far....the best example of a double standard and misuse of rational thought I have seen in some time.

No, you are not aware of how a republic works. If the supreme court goes against the ruler (in the case of a republic, the people) they are the traitor.

It isn't a double standard, the people rule period. The supreme court does what we tell them to do.

again I forgive you for not understanding what a patriot is. Also a person that topples our power in our allies us exactly what a traitor is.

 

[tecoyah]

Very well....I accept I do not understand things in the same way you do.

 

[clax]

Very well....I accept I do not understand things in the same way you do.

it is your business who you surrender your rights to. but you start stepping on mine, there will be blood.

 

[tecoyah]

As a general rule...I tend to avoid those who make idle threats, and am therefore quite done with you as a debate partner.

Have fun stormin' the castle

 

[myp]

"Education: the path from cocky ignorance to miserable uncertainty." -Mark Twain

 

[clax]

As a general rule...I tend to avoid those who make idle threats, and am therefore quite done with you as a debate partner.

Have fun stormin' the castle

right, come back if you ever want to try again, next time being your A game

 

[clax]

"Education: the path from cocky ignorance to miserable uncertainty." -Mark Twain

Enjoy your misery perhaps it is your just dessert.