All Gun Control Laws Are For Law Abiding Citizens And Not Lawless Criminals

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---Obama wants to find a way to take away our guns from law abiding, gun owning American citizens. All laws for gun control is not to stop lawless criminals from their lawless shooting and murdering episodes. For these criminals will disobey any and every gun control law to do their evil deeds.

---Obama and all or most politicians just use these criminal shooting episodes as an excuse to create more gun control laws to take guns away from law abiding citizens and they think that you as an American citizen are too stupid to see what these politicians and Obama's real motive is when they say that they are making more gun control laws to protect us from these random criminal shootings.

---These gun control laws will never control any and every gun that a criminal will obtain either legally or illegally. And what all these gun control laws are really designed to do is to gradually and eventually take away our right to own a gun as an American citizen and according to the second amendment of our US Constitution.

---And these politicians and Obama want to totally disregard our US Constitution: but in order to do this, they must first find a way to take away our guns first; because if he tries to totally disregard our United States Constitution and walk all over it like a door matt. Tyranical Obama and all of these politicans are afraid that these guns will be aimed at them like our founding fathers did to the tyranical British when they fought for our independence and freedom for the first time that formed and started this American Country that we now live in today and is the very reason that "we" as American citizens have that second Amendment right to bear Arms of any kind.

---For"we" as US citizens are that minute man malicia that is to be ready in one minute like when Paul Revere ran from town to town yelling "The British are coming-The British are coming", and every man and young boy in these towns would be ready and in their assigned position of defence in one minute to defend themselves and their town from the tyrannical British.

---But today its not any tyrannical threat from the British; But the tyrannical threat of Obama and his politicians and big government control over all American citizens. For why would it be so important for the politicians to go to great lengths to find ways around and through our second amendment right to take guns away from law abiding American citizens but yet it will not take away guns from lawless criminals that will always find a way, legally and or illegally and without any regard to any gun control laws, to get any and all guns and ammo that they intend to use to commit their murdering rampage.

---For the first law that all of these criminals will totally disobey first is the law of murder. How about they try making strict laws to punish the murdering criminals that use guns, knives, bombs, etc illegally, instead of finding ways to punish law abiding American citizens for obeying all laws and are not the ones doing these murdering shooting episodes. Why is it that when one person commits a crime politicians want to make new laws to punish not only that individual that commits the crime but ends up punishing all of the law abiding citizens that did no crime.
 
Jul 2009
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You'd have a point if Obama wasn't of the most gun friendly presidents in history. Even after Newtown, all that he's done is talk talking points and tell Biden to form a committee to make suggestions he can ignore.

And based off the format of your post, I'm thinking chain mail and that you're a 1 time poster who'll never see this rebuttal...
 
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"all that he's done is talk talking points" is correct. Forgetting Newtown for a moment. In 2011, the latest figure available from the Centers for Disease Control,


Accidental discharge 851
Suicide 19,766
Homicide 11,101
Undetermined Intent 222

Total: At least 31940 people died from gun injuries in 2011.


Previous years:
2010 31,328 people
2009 31,177 people
2007 31,224 people
2004 29,569 people
 
Feb 2013
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You'd have a point if Obama wasn't of the most gun friendly presidents in history. Even after Newtown, all that he's done is talk talking points and tell Biden to form a committee to make suggestions he can ignore.

And based off the format of your post, I'm thinking chain mail and that you're a 1 time poster who'll never see this rebuttal...

lie to yourself all you want. I am not going to but that.
 
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So what has he done that is pro gun? Not fire Eric holder? That is so incredibly pro gun.

Please list his pro gun measures, because the liberty advocates called the NRA, who are pro gun seem to hate him.

Unless I slipped through the looking glass you are off your rocker
 
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It's political dog and pony show nonsense. Mandatory sentencing for gun crimes, mental health reform(many more killed by suicide than murder), policies that certainly belong in any national discussion on firearms, never are. Statistics I can find all day long prove children have been killed by guns in numbers that defy logic and yet it takes this horrific event in Newtown to wake up politicians who want a TV spot for their next multi million dollar campaign.....that much of the electorate will slobber over.

Make sure we vote these folk right back in come 2014 too. Hard to find such honorable and genuine people, America loves its' incumbents.
 
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It's political dog and pony show nonsense. Mandatory sentencing for gun crimes, mental health reform(many more killed by suicide than murder), policies that certainly belong in any national discussion on firearms, never are. Statistics I can find all day long prove children have been killed by guns in numbers that defy logic and yet it takes this horrific event in Newtown to wake up politicians who want a TV spot for their next multi million dollar campaign.....that much of the electorate will slobber over.

Make sure we vote these folk right back in come 2014 too. Hard to find such honorable and genuine people, America loves its' incumbents.

Sad that we should all be so denied of what's right, because of the stupidity of the American people. Let's not jump the gun though (no pun intended). It's being shown that many of the 46 idiots who voted against the extended background checks, are taking a beating in the polls, and a whipping at their town halls. Just maybe the American people have finally woke up, and they will vote these morons out, and FINALLY this lobbyist bribing way of doing government will come to a halt, and the American people will re-take their place as the ones whom US representitives represent.
 
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Apr 2013
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The legerdemain of the dems is astounding. The resultant gun legislation was to prevent children from being harmed, again. Tell me, how will limiting the number of rounds and/or more extensive federal paperwork tracking guns prevent another catastrophe like in Connecticut?

Proposed legislation is more ideology than practicality.
 
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The legerdemain of the dems is astounding. The resultant gun legislation was to prevent children from being harmed, again. Tell me, how will limiting the number of rounds and/or more extensive federal paperwork tracking guns gonna prevent another catastrophe like in Connecticut?

Proposed legislation is more ideology than practicality.

Smoke and mirrors. Try to pass a bunch of laws and maybe nobody will notice that the proposed laws are already unenforced laws. The uneducated, depending on what side of the debate they're on, ether go around ranting about 'gun nuts' or 'gov't taking our guns' and the politicians on both sides get more money and votes. As for the educated, well we get ignored.
 
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Smoke and mirrors. Try to pass a bunch of laws and maybe nobody will notice that the proposed laws are already unenforced laws. The uneducated, depending on what side of the debate they're on, ether go around ranting about 'gun nuts' or 'gov't taking our guns' and the politicians on both sides get more money and votes. As for the educated, well we get ignored.

The recent extended background check bill was not "already unenforced laws".
 
Jul 2009
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The recent extended background check bill was not "already unenforced laws".

Perhaps not in the literal, word for word sense. That said, background checks, gun safety requirements, gun registration, etc. are all on the books, they're simply poorly enforced. Passing/debating more laws keeps people focused on new laws and keeps them from asking too many questions about all of the laws that are being ignored. Most of the bills being debated are redundant, it's all political games.
 
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Perhaps not in the literal, word for word sense. That said, background checks, gun safety requirements, gun registration, etc. are all on the books, they're simply poorly enforced. Passing/debating more laws keeps people focused on new laws and keeps them from asking too many questions about all of the laws that are being ignored. Most of the bills being debated are redundant, it's all political games.
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And it pulls attention away from other "questions" this government needs to answer. Amazing how that works out.;)
 
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Perhaps not in the literal, word for word sense. That said, background checks, gun safety requirements, gun registration, etc. are all on the books, they're simply poorly enforced. Passing/debating more laws keeps people focused on new laws and keeps them from asking too many questions about all of the laws that are being ignored. Most of the bills being debated are redundant, it's all political games.

Its the Obama administration's fault that background checks were poorly done, and he didn't fire the person who deliberately compromised the measures that were in place. He is not gun friendly, he has used every method he could to ban assault weapons including several executive orders violating the privacy rights of people that buy guns.

He is not at all gun friendly. In the wake of the Connecticut shooting he jumped on the assault weapon bans, high capacity magazines and do forth. He just doesn't have any power to do anything about it. powerless but not friendly.
 
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Its the Obama administration's fault that background checks were poorly done, and he didn't fire the person who deliberately compromised the measures that were in place. He is not gun friendly, he has used every method he could to ban assault weapons including several executive orders violating the privacy rights of people that buy guns.

He is not at all gun friendly. In the wake of the Connecticut shooting he jumped on the assault weapon bans, high capacity magazines and do forth. He just doesn't have any power to do anything about it. powerless but not friendly.

Every president has a lot of power to do something about anything. Part of his job is to make policy, and present it to the Congress to be voted on. If the Congress votes on it and passes it, he then can sign it into law. If the Congress ignores the president's recommedations, they do so at great peril to themselves, since legislation that they sponsor or co-sponsor is what defines them as a Congressman. The president can veto their sponsored legislation with one stroke of a pen, or simply do nothing. A few of those and a Congressman can start thinking about finding another job.

All in all, I would agree with David that Obama is of the most gun friendly presidents in history, and the stats that Stonewall showed seem bear that out.
 
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All in all, I would agree with David that Obama is of the most gun friendly presidents in history, and the stats that Stonewall showed seem bear that out.

Gun friendly? Simply because the numbers have gone up while he's been in office doesn't mean anything about his "friendliness" towards the gun issue. He hasn't done anything....the numbers don't mean anything regarding Obama. So, by not signing any legislation makes him "friendly" to it?

I can probably find a source with differing numbers. In fact, I've read many many more claims that gun crime is down in the last several years.
 
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