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Jul 2009
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dabdab, you seem intelligent. Please proofread your posts for proper grammar and use spell check. I think your arguments would come off better if written in proper English. You have a firm grasp of the language (we understand you after all :p), just spend more time typing and get it right.
 
Nov 2011
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dabdab, you seem intelligent. Please proofread your posts for proper grammar and use spell check. I think your arguments would come off better if written in proper English. You have a firm grasp of the language (we understand you after all :p), just spend more time typing and get it right.
I'm trying ! . Thanks ,David .
 
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the Glass?Steagall Act of 1933 was enacted for a reason , to guard against the entanglement of defendant financial institutions repealing it made the history repeat itself .

This is probably the stupidest of the leftwing myths. :p Eg, Lehmann brothers, one of the first banks to collapse, was a purely investment bank - if Glass-Steagall were in place, it wouldn't have prevented anything. Try again, sparky.
 
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This is probably the stupidest of the leftwing myths. :p Eg, Lehmann brothers, one of the first banks to collapse, was a purely investment bank - if Glass-Steagall were in place, it wouldn't have prevented anything. Try again, sparky.
I'm willing to listen to your explanation as to how Lehmann brothers collapsed .
 

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The flaw is in your head because you assume every thing I imagined , entertaining David's idea has to be exactly as yours I was talking about the essential things proving the possibility by examples of technology creating abundance for something was scarce .It seems to me you are intertaining the idea that the hole objective is eliminate production for money or trade , that is not the idea I,m entertaining .
I 'm entertaining the Idea of making the essential things free in an acceptable level .
that doesn't mean I will put caviar on the table nor does it mean I will prevent any body to work his butt out to get caviar in his table or get that diamond ring or that 10000000 Ferraris .
So first you say that you want to give anyone any of the essentials they need, then you say you want the guy to work for his Ferraris. Which is it? Because essentials is arguable and he can argue he needs the Ferraris.


it means the water itself is in abundance in quantities sufficient to quill man's thirst which is my point
The quantity might be fine, but the distribution is not perfect. The result is that not everyone has drinkable water.

Yes they are phoney in my opinion . a product has to be a tangible product or tangible utility .
They are based on mortgages. Do you think mortgages are phony? Do you think loans are phony? Do you think bonds and stocks are phony? Do you think property certificates are phony?

the Glass–Steagall Act of 1933 was enacted for a reason , to guard against the entanglement of defendant financial institutions repealing it made the history repeat itself .
It was formed so that the government insurance programs passed with it were less morally hazardous.

Fannie/Freddie's involvement is not alone , banks created the so called sub prime mortgages and for the purpose of selling it to investment banks who buy it for the sole purpose of creating CDOs . it is a pyramid investment .sub prime mortgages are a flawed product by neglect or design .
Have you ever thought why the subprime mortgages were made? There is high risk with such mortgages- the only reason it went through is because the companies were able to publicize losses on that risk (effectively insuring it) due to government policy.

imagine what would happen to ford or toyota if they install a hazardous part .
That analogy does not work- no one knew the things would crash like they did to start with. It happened unknowingly- both Ford and Toyota have accidentally installed hazardous things in the past too.


low rates, and the FDIC are the salt and pepper for this which prugh
What? What does "prugh" mean?

Again another assumption from your side . I never said we can switch to solar overnight I only emphasized the possibility . As for efficiency levels of the solar cells , that depends on the perspective you are looking at as far as the production of electricity is concerned it's efficiency is acceptable but to use it you have to convert it to an AC current and /or you have to store it in batteries that make it less efficient , never the less there are people in the US that use it economically and exchange with the grid .
You say it is a possibility. I bolded the part you said it at in this quotation. Show me how it is a possibility- numbers/proof or a supporting argument please.
 
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I'm willing to listen to your explanation as to how Lehmann brothers collapsed .

No, don't change the subject - let's stick to your glass steagall myth. Other banks involved in the 2008 crisis:

Morgan Stanley - bailed out by other banks. Bank type? Investment

Merrill Lynch - bailed out by other banks. Bank type? Investment

Effect of glass-steagal repeal on either? ZERO
 
Nov 2011
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So first you say that you want to give anyone any of the essentials they need, then you say you want the guy to work for his Ferraris. Which is it? Because essentials is arguable and he can argue he needs the Ferraris.
what Isaid was :"I 'm entertaining the Idea of making the essential things free in an acceptable level .
that doesn't mean I will put caviar on the table nor does it mean I will prevent any body to work his butt out to get caviar in his table or get that diamond ring or that 10000000 Ferraris ." show me ware I wanted any to do any .

The quantity might be fine, but the distribution is not perfect. The result is that not everyone has drinkable water.
may be that is true in the context of your train of thoughts but the context I said it in is how that the most important aspect of life namely air and water is free
They are based on mortgages. Do you think mortgages are phony? Do you think loans are phony? Do you think bonds and stocks are phony? Do you think property certificates are phony?
can you tell or can a certificate holder tell what type of mortgage it is based on , is it prime mortgage , sub prime mortgage or Laosy mortgage . and the three typ of certificate why they are treated differently since thay are based on the same mortgages and how can an investment be based on a mortgage .any how her you go if they are not a piramyd scheme the melt down wouldn't have happened . if you insist on hailing these schemes it is not a problem for me . you are were you chose .
It was formed so that the government insurance programs passed with it were less morally hazardous.
That is your opinion , keep it .
Have you ever thought why the subprime mortgages were made? There is high risk with such mortgages- the only reason it went through is because the companies were able to publicize losses on that risk (effectively insuring it) due to government policy.
what companies you are talking about , and how they publicize the risk .
That analogy does not work- no one knew the things would crash like they did to start with. It happened unknowingly- both Ford and Toyota have accidentally installed hazardous things in the past too.
what did they expect from a pyramid scheme-like investment and I mean those investment banks at least ford and toyota will recall and fix the product .

What? What does "prugh" mean?
Sorry
low rates, and the FDIC are the salt and pepper for this whiche's brew recipe
You say it is a possibility. I bolded the part you said it at in this quotation. Show me how it is a possibility- numbers/proof or a supporting argument please.
what exactly you want detail what you want because I cant imagene the scope of you request or what is your counter argument . I showed you a link about eu project . I think ether of us understand this word differently.
 
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No, don't change the subject - let's stick to your glass steagall myth. Other banks involved in the 2008 crisis:

Morgan Stanley - bailed out by other banks. Bank type? Investment

Merrill Lynch - bailed out by other banks. Bank type? Investment

Effect of glass-steagal repeal on either? ZERO

Have it your way then .good luck and good by .
 
Aug 2011
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You must think retreating is 'advancing in the other direction'. He didn't surrender, he gave you a right hook and walked away.

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight, saying "Have it your way then .good luck and good by." is a "right hook". :p

is possible for you to make a single post without sounding like an idiot??? :rolleyes:
 
Jul 2009
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Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight, saying "Have it your way then .good luck and good by." is a "right hook". :p

is possible for you to make a single post without sounding like an idiot??? :rolleyes:

At least I can spell right, can place a period in the correct place and know to capitalize the 1st word in a sentence. :p
 
Nov 2011
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Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight, saying "Have it your way then .good luck and good by." is a "right hook". :p

is possible for you to make a single post without sounding like an idiot??? :rolleyes:
I dare you to explain how Lehmann brothers collapsed and not proving my point without knowing it , as usual. Lehmann brothers collapse is your shit deal with it . or wait for me to tell you some other time .
 
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I dare you to explain how Lehmann brothers collapsed and not proving my point without knowing it , as usual. Lehmann brothers collapse is your shit deal with it . or wait for me to tell you some other time .

How Lehmann collapsed is a DIFFERENT ISSUE than the one you raised, which was the standard liberal-left agitprop for morons that the repeal of Glass-Steagall was the cause of the 2008 collapse. This is clearly contradicted by the known facts, as I pointed out. Having been clobbered by me on THE ISSUE YOU RAISED, you're now trying to duck and weave away by switching the topic, but I'm not biting. :p
 
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How Lehmann collapsed is a DIFFERENT ISSUE than the one you raised, which was the standard liberal-left agitprop for morons that the repeal of Glass-Steagall was the cause of the 2008 collapse. This is clearly contradicted by the known facts, as I pointed out. Having been clobbered by me on THE ISSUE YOU RAISED, you're now trying to duck and weave away by switching the topic, but I'm not biting.
this is what you said in it's entirety :
This is probably the stupidest of the leftwing myths. Eg, Lehmann brothers, one of the first banks to collapse, was a purely investment bank - if Glass-Steagall were in place, it wouldn't have prevented anything. Try again, sparky.
show me the known facts .
 
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