National Security or Liberty?

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Yes, you do. Pretty darned hard to earn a law degree without some education in the lingua franca (or English, in this case).
 
Aug 2010
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English is the lingua franca right now... the scope of the Anglosphere in terms of territory, population, military and economic power are immense.

Plus, I've always wondered how one makes a keyboard for chinese where each word is a different picture!
 
Aug 2010
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Yeah well, every time I switch lingos to answer an email from one of a number of cousins (one of them is a babe and I wish we weren't related, but I accept my fate), it takes me an hour to remember how to get things moving from left to right again. Ha! Over yonder in my homeroom I once destroyed an entire thread before I fixed the Hebraic lefty/righty problem.

And like you, I've often wondered about the Chinese. I assume those folks have figured out how to alphabetize things for the sake of saving on the size of keyboards?
 
Oct 2010
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The video leaves out GW Bush's role in setting the Obama agenda. The international mess started with Reagan. The federal reserve mess began with Bush's grandpa,but I did change my party from Democrat to "declines to state" following the misleading statements of Nancy Pelosi, Di Feinstein, and Barbara Boxer.
 
Aug 2010
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lavivi, et al,

Hummm, I wouldn't base your vote on this criteria.

The video leaves out GW Bush's role in setting the Obama agenda. The international mess started with Reagan. The federal reserve mess began with Bush's grandpa,but I did change my party from Democrat to "declines to state" following the misleading statements of Nancy Pelosi, Di Feinstein, and Barbara Boxer.
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Politicians are not patriotic. They work in their own best interest, with the least amount of effort. They never have been honest or trustworthy.

Jeffrey Pelt: Hunt for the Red October said:
Listen, I'm a politician which means I'm a cheat and a liar, and when I'm not kissing babies I'm stealing their lollipops. But it also means I keep my options open.
It doesn't matter if your a Republican or Democrat, it is an occupational hazard. That's why most Poli-Sci Majors don't go into politics. They can't stand the smell after learning how it should be, versus reality.

A politician is one (may be two) steps below a Used Car Salesman. They don't have any honor or integrity. They are never wrong, and are always on the right side of the issue.

These are the same people that say "greed" is not a sin; yet foster laws that allow the Enron Scandal. They created an environment that lead to the GM, Ford and Chrysler bailout. A whole list of banks like CitiCorp needed taxpayer handouts. Then there was Freddie Mac and Fanny Mae troubles, then --- Bear Sterns and Lehnman Brothers --- and it goes on and on. Not to mention that foreclosures are still in the news. A bad bank can be bailed-out by the citizens -- but a citizen cannot be bailed-out. College fees rising, as available grant money declines. Yes, politicans have outperformed themselves in the last decade - driving this nation into the ground. But they can borrow a Trillion Dollars for wars in Iraq and Afghanistan; adding to the national debt.

No, both sides played this game with the people. And all we can do is make it clear that we have no respect for a politician. It is no longer a question of who is best for the country.

You vote for who will least hurt the nation.

Most Respectfully,
R
 
Nov 2010
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Co. Springs, CO
Pat-Down Leaves Passenger Covered in Urine

Man w/ med device humiliated during pat-down

http://video.foxnews.com/v/4430218/pat-down-leaves-passenger-covered-in-urine

This is a despicable and tasteless example of the ineptitude of the TSA. We cannot allow this to happen to American citizens, what is going on in TSA is not working and must be reformed. Not throught the government, but through security experts, and professionals. If TSA cannot handle the task, the reins should be passed to someone else.
 
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Jul 2009
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Pat-Down Leaves Passenger Covered in Urine

Man w/ med device humiliated during pat-down

http://video.foxnews.com/v/4430218/pat-down-leaves-passenger-covered-in-urine

This is a despicable and tasteless example of the ineptitude of the TSA. We cannot allow this to happen to American citizens, what is going on in TSA is not working and must be reformed. Not throught the government, but through security experts, and professionals. If TSA cannot handle the task, the reins should be passed to someone else.

It might of helped if he said something more descriptive then, "I have a medical issue." And while we're on the subject of what helps, it might help if you didn't spin things to fit a political bias. Seriously, are we really complaining about a 3-second low power X-Ray scan?
 
Nov 2010
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This has nothing to do with political bias, and everything to do with constitutional rights. Every single person who goes to the airport should not have to be put through one of these intrusive body scans or pat-downs un-less the TSA has probable cause to search that person, or are conducting it randomly.

The gentleman in the video did try on my than one occasion to warn the TSA personnel of his situation but the TSA personnel would not listen to what he had to say.
 
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Jul 2009
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This has nothing to do with political bias, and everything to do with constitutional rights. Every single person who goes to the airport should not have to be put through one of these intrusive body scans or pat-downs un-less the TSA has probable cause to search that person, or are conducting it randomly.

The gentleman in the video did try on my than one occasion to warn the TSA personnel of his situation but the TSA personnel would not listen to what he had to say.

The guy admitted to not stating what the issue actually was. And how is a 3 second X-Ray more intrusive then a 10 minute pat-down, search and metal scan? I like the idea of quicker lines and less searches.
 
Nov 2010
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I agree that the X-ray is faster, but it shows the persons body naked, which is extreamly intrusive.

I believe the X-ray and/or pat-down methods could still be used effectively and efficiently if combined with behavioral profiling. The TSA has heaps of intel at their disposal that they simply choose not to use.
 
Jul 2009
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I agree that the X-ray is faster, but it shows the persons body naked, which is extreamly intrusive.

I believe the X-ray and/or pat-down methods could still be used effectively and efficiently if combined with behavioral profiling. The TSA has heaps of intel at their disposal that they simply choose not to use.

It shows a skeleton, the body just appears as a milk-white outline (Have you never seen an X-Ray?) that can be blurred to remove any unwanted... Outlines.
 
Nov 2010
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I have seen the new scan images. Answer me this, who blurs the images? Who then has the right to see my wife's naked body?
 
Jul 2009
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I have seen the new scan images. Answer me this, who blurs the images? Who then has the right to see my wife's naked body?

The makers of the scanners can blur them. They didn't because they didn't expect a backlash (and it's only a loud minority complaining so that thinking wasn't unjustified).
 
Nov 2010
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Blurring is done after an image is taken, by a person, not a computer.

Now the loud complaining is no a majority, so something needs to be done.
 
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Blurring is done after an image is taken, by a person, not a computer.

Now the loud complaining is no a majority, so something needs to be done.

Actually they can do it on screen, the scanners simply aren't set to do so.
 
Nov 2010
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Well if the machines are capable of permanantly blurring the images around the private portions of the body, and no one is ever allowed to see them, it would be a step in the right direction.

But if they are permanantly blured and cannot be un-blured than what if a terrorist does attempt to hide something their? They will not be able to un-blur it to see the object, or inversly the will have the capabilities to un-blur the image and then we are back to square one.

Then there is the question of what if terrorist hides a weapon in a cavity, the scanners can not pick that up so all of these precautions will have been a waist.

This all seems much too complicated of a system to implement, why not go with a simpler, more successful method? Trained dogs, and Behavioral profiling?
 
Aug 2010
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We could enjoy liberty and a degree of security at the same time if we weren't so damned afraid to profile.
 
Jul 2009
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We could enjoy liberty and a degree of security at the same time if we weren't so damned afraid to profile.

Profiling may work if the target is small and a quick discovery will end the threat. When this doesn't work, the threat will evolve. It will take a form your profiling ignores. Jihad Jane is a great example of this.
 
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Profiling may work if the target is small and a quick discovery will end the threat. When this doesn't work, the threat will evolve. It will take a form your profiling ignores. Jihad Jane is a great example of this.

And thousands of Arab terrorists are great examples of the profile working

Outliers like your exception do not fit profiling because they are outliers. Profiling is a sifting tool. It produces a batch of likely suspects for further investigation. This helps save resources by zeroing in on better suspects.
 
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