Obama to propose assault weapons ban, better background checks

Oct 2012
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Ak 47s are rifles to my knowledge they don't possess the capacity to commit assault. The word is meaningless sorry.

And therein lies the issue here. You wish for me to accept your opinion as a fact in the face of verified Data from sources far more informed than you could possibly be that clearly states your opinion as invalid. I simply cannot do so and take myself seriously.

The Military refers to these weapons as "Assault Rifles", and "Assault weapons"...in this case your opinion carries much less weight.

Using symantics to cloud a debate does not make your case more compelling, it in fact does the opposite.
 

myp

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His goal is to to steal liberties. To limit a liberty for no reason is very illogical.

There is a reason. And that isn't his goal. You don't like when people assume things about you but look at what a HUGE assumption you are making here about Obama. Look at the forum quotation of the moment- what you are doing is slander plain and simple.
 
Jan 2012
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And therein lies the issue here. You wish for me to accept your opinion as a fact in the face of verified Data from sources far more informed than you could possibly be that clearly states your opinion as invalid. I simply cannot do so and take myself seriously.

The Military refers to these weapons as "Assault Rifles", and "Assault weapons"...in this case your opinion carries much less weight.

Using symantics to cloud a debate does not make your case more compelling, it in fact does the opposite.

So is just a simi auto rifle?

Absolutely against any ban on such. I have three simiauto rifles, they are considered hunting rifles. So if it is scary looking its an assault weapon?
 
Jan 2012
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There is a reason. And that isn't his goal. You don't like when people assume things about you but look at what a HUGE assumption you are making here about Obama. Look at the forum quotation of the moment- what you are doing is slander plain and simple.

My assumption is supported by the President actions. there are laws against murder, those were broken they carry hey higher penalty. it doesn't require data just common sense
 
May 2012
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Why not make a gun ban? All guns. I understand in the "Constitution" we have the right to own guns, but the Constitution was made hundreds of years ago and there weren't 10s of thousands of gun related deaths in this country every year. It's time for a change and it's a shame a bunch of innocent kids had to die before this was realized.
 
Jan 2012
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Why not make a gun ban? All guns. I understand in the "Constitution" we have the right to own guns, but the Constitution was made hundreds of years ago and there weren't 10s of thousands of gun related deaths in this country every year. It's time for a change and it's a shame a bunch of innocent kids had to die before this was realized.

killing children is already illegal, committing crimes with guns is already prohibited by the law. why throw out the Constitution for a superfluous law
 
May 2012
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killing children is already illegal, committing crimes with guns is already prohibited by the law. why throw out the Constitution for a superfluous law
Perhaps, but all these crimes and others like them are easily committed because it is so easy to get a gun. Had guns been illegal, and if that guy's mom didn't have assault rifles laying around, dozen of lives might have been spared IMO.
 
Feb 2012
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killing children is already illegal, committing crimes with guns is already prohibited by the law. why throw out the Constitution for a superfluous law
why outlaw smoking in pubs? answer is because it is a step towards protecting people who don't smoke. Laws should change when a chance comes to improve things shouldnt it?
 
Jan 2012
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Perhaps, but all these crimes and others like them are easily committed because it is so easy to get a gun. Had guns been illegal, and if that guy's mom didn't have assault rifles laying around, dozen of lives might have been spared IMO.

Mall would not magically make guns disappear. if you outlaw guns only outlaws will have guns.

it was possible to wipe them out of existence, I will jump on that bandwagon a heartbeat. making them illegal just means I can have them
 
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why outlaw smoking in pubs? answer is because it is a step towards protecting people who don't smoke. Laws should change when a chance comes to improve things shouldnt it?

burning a cigarette a bar, does harm everyone around. gun holster does not.
 
Oct 2012
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It makes sense in Canada...unfortunately we stopped that sillyness here shortly after Reagan.
 
Jan 2012
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Perhaps, but all these crimes and others like them are easily committed because it is so easy to get a gun. Had guns been illegal, and if that guy's mom didn't have assault rifles laying around, dozen of lives might have been spared IMO.

Seriously doubt someone contemplating mass murder would abandon plans because he would have to break a law to acquire a fire arm. IMEO
 

myp

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My assumption is supported by the President actions.

I don't agree. And clearly millions of other Americans and the courts (at least so far) don't either. So therein lies your issue. You are misrepresenting his view on no basis other than your opinion. Again, you don't like people putting words in your mouth- why are you doing it to him? He has never said anything that has suggested his goal is to take away liberties...
 
Jan 2012
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I don't agree. And clearly millions of other Americans and the courts (at least so far) don't either. So therein lies your issue. You are misrepresenting his view on no basis other than your opinion. Again, you don't like people putting words in your mouth- why are you doing it to him? He has never said anything that has suggested his goal is to take away liberties...

He has said plenty to suggest that.

and clearly millions of Americans also agree with me. What the court thinks isn't relevant they serve us. They are not emperors.
 

myp

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and clearly millions of Americans also agree with me. .

Honestly I don't think millions agree with you. It is not the GOAL of this policy to take away liberties. Most people would agree that the goal is to reduce gun violence. Whether or not it does that is another story, but that is the goal. The liberty being taken away, if any, is a side effect- clearly not the primary intent.
 
Jan 2012
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Honestly I don't think millions agree with you. It is not the GOAL of this policy to take away liberties. Most people would agree that the goal is to reduce gun violence. Whether or not it does that is another story, but that is the goal. The liberty being taken away, if any, is a side effect- clearly not the primary intent.

No, it is his intent to strip liberties. Its clear as day. If it was to reduce gun violence his ban wouldn't be on guns involved in a statistical zero percent of gun crimes.

Either he is trying to strip liberties our he is all but completely devoid of common sense.
 
Dec 2012
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Tyranny is Always Rammed Through

Comes a day after Cuomo signed a big gun control bill in New York.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/01/16/us-usa-guns-idUSBRE90F0NU20130116
One can measure the degree of the tyranny by how fast legislation is rammed through. Cuomo is a tyrant. Fortunately people can leave his domain. I understand that Texas is inviting the productive New Yorkers to move to a state that will appreciate them.

California is being depopulated by the productive people who can leave. And it is being populated by third worlders here illegally.
 
Dec 2012
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What do you expect from your tyrants?

I don't agree. And clearly millions of other Americans and the courts (at least so far) don't either. So therein lies your issue. You are misrepresenting his view on no basis other than your opinion. Again, you don't like people putting words in your mouth- why are you doing it to him? He has never said anything that has suggested his goal is to take away liberties...
What sort of person expects his tyrant to say he intends to make his subjects his slaves?

One can judge a tyrant by his actions. Those who harass the law abiding citizen with rules, regulations, and burdens is the tyrant. One who rushes legislation through is a tyrant. The Democrat Party is the party of big government. Big government is where tyrants grow up.
 
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