Texas town allows Teacher to carry guns in school.

Jan 2012
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The law isn't the supreme ruler of the people in this nation. Any law in say 1790 against slavery would have been disobeyed, that kind of thing occurs repeatedly in or history./QUOTE]

History? 900k slaves in America today... Not history, just ignored.

But holding slaves is highly punishable. You just further made my point. It isn't government approved, actually quote the opposite is true. We in my department have been discussing this in depth. Perhaps even creating a task force to bring those criminals to justice.
 
Jul 2009
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Port St. Lucie
But holding slaves is highly punishable. You just further made my point. It isn't government approved, actually quote the opposite is true. We in my department have been discussing this in depth. Perhaps even creating a task force to bring those criminals to justice.

But it was gov't approved back then which was my point. Hell it's still gov't approved, you just need to be a convict to be legally enslaved.
 
Jan 2012
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But it was gov't approved back then which was my point. Hell it's still gov't approved, you just need to be a convict to be legally enslaved.

Are you saying that incarcerated people who are being punished for crimes such as human trafficking are slaves?

It was never government approved, the government just didn't say anything about it.
 
Dec 2012
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Madison, AL
Believe what you want, but remember that it wasn't the government who quite literally enslaved an entire race once upon a time in American history ;)
Really? So Roosevelt didn't round up all the "Slant Eyes" in WWII?

Overall I rate your comment as very low quality. Of course it was the government. It was state governments but governments nonetheless.
 
Oct 2012
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Louisville, Ky
Really? So Roosevelt didn't round up all the "Slant Eyes" in WWII?

Overall I rate your comment as very low quality. Of course it was the government. It was state governments but governments nonetheless.


Either I am confused, or slavery is something imagined due to war, it seems to me you are a bit imaginative.
 
Jan 2013
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I don't think this is a bad idea at all. They should be trained and armed to protect the children and themselves. I think that the ones who do not wish to be armed shouldn't have to be, but the teachers who are willing to be armed to protect, let them.
 
Jan 2012
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I don't think this is a bad idea at all. They should be trained and armed to protect the children and themselves. I think that the ones who do not wish to be armed shouldn't have to be, but the teachers who are willing to be armed to protect, let them.

The only danger I see that this concept of guns in teachers possession during school. Is in the unlikely event that there was a madman with a gun scenario is that children could be potentially be in cross fire. I just really don't imagine a teacher doing anything really to combat an attacker. I assume they would be more likely to defend their children by seeking cover for the kids.

A teacher with a pistol going all Rambo on a guy with an AK 47 seems unlikely. a pistol really is a last resort defensive weapon. I typically run or drop as my instincts tell me to. The only time I have ever used my gun defensively was when the option to flee was not available.

I still don't know why it is okay to discriminate and withhold rights to people because of their profession.
 
Jul 2009
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Port St. Lucie
Are you saying that incarcerated people who are being punished for crimes such as human trafficking are slaves?

It was never government approved, the government just didn't say anything about it.

No, I'm saying slavery is legal so long as the person is a convict as per Amendment 13.
 

myp

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Really? So Roosevelt didn't round up all the "Slant Eyes" in WWII?

Overall I rate your comment as very low quality. Of course it was the government. It was state governments but governments nonetheless.

I was talking about slavery... Most people seemed to have got that, of course you didn't :p
 
Jan 2012
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No, I'm saying slavery is legal so long as the person is a convict as per Amendment 13.

So to end "slavery" we should just open the jails up and let the murderers and rapists live next door to you.

To hold someone for committing an act of violence is not the same as to kidnap and force people to work against their will.

You are out of your mind if you think you can compare a convicted murderer to a child sex slave. Sorry I don't wish to continue this nonsense.
 
Jul 2009
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Port St. Lucie
So to end "slavery" we should just open the jails up and let the murderers and rapists live next door to you.

To hold someone for committing an act of violence is not the same as to kidnap and force people to work against their will.

You are out of your mind if you think you can compare a convicted murderer to a child sex slave. Sorry I don't wish to continue this nonsense.

What? myp, can we get a face palm emote?

No, if you're convicted of a crime, the gov't can put you to work as a slave. You think those chain gangs you see picking up garbage get payed?
 
Jan 2012
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What? myp, can we get a face palm emote?

No, if you're convicted of a crime, the gov't can put you to work as a slave. You think those chain gangs you see picking up garbage get payed?

You need a palm slap. Incarceration is not slavery.
 
Jul 2009
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Port St. Lucie
You need a palm slap. Incarceration is not slavery.

Okay, a more blatant example then. Alabama cracked down on it's illegal population a while back taking them off the farms and construction sites they were working on. After confirming they were illegal they didn't deport them but rather sent them right back to work, this time for free, as per the 13th Amendment's allowance for convict slaves. Being a convict doesn't make anyone a slave but it does allow for said convict's enslavement if there is a labor shortage or they had the misfortune of getting a pro-slavery judge during sentencing.
 
Jan 2012
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Okay, a more blatant example then. Alabama cracked down on it's illegal population a while back taking them off the farms and construction sites they were working on. After confirming they were illegal they didn't deport them but rather sent them right back to work, this time for free, as per the 13th Amendment's allowance for convict slaves. Being a convict doesn't make anyone a slave but it does allow for said convict's enslavement if there is a labor shortage or they had the misfortune of getting a pro-slavery judge during sentencing.

The didn't have to break into or country. They are also prisoners, all prisoners preform some task either for the prison or the community which they wronged.

Once they pay their debt to society they are fee men.

Still don't see how its slavery.
 
Jul 2009
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Port St. Lucie
The didn't have to break into or country. They are also prisoners, all prisoners preform some task either for the prison or the community which they wronged.

Once they pay their debt to society they are fee men.

Still don't see how its slavery.

Slavery is the act of forcing someone to work against their will for no or only token pay. Forcing convicts to clean out gutters, work on farms are dig mines/queries is slavery by definition. The fact that they're convicts doesn't change this fact.
 
Jan 2012
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Slavery is the act of forcing someone to work against their will for no or only token pay. Forcing convicts to clean out gutters, work on farms are dig mines/queries is slavery by definition. The fact that they're convicts doesn't change this fact.

Forcing them to clean up their jail cell is slavery also. So what is your point?
 
Jul 2009
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Port St. Lucie
Forcing them to clean up their jail cell is slavery also. So what is your point?

A chore isn't slavery, picking crops at some farm 8 hrs a day, 7 days a week with no pay is. I'm not sure why you're fighting so hard to deny this...
 
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