You're a sad, sad little man.Don't like him? Vote for someone else next election.
I voted for someone else last election oh wise one.
Your personal shots at me show who the small one is.
I voted for someone else last election oh wise one.
Your personal shots at me show who the small one is.
The whole working class is oppressed. The truth is, the vast majority of black people are proletarian. And the vast majority of white people are proletarian. During segregation, however, they were to an even greater extent and indeed almost uniformly proletarian.
Also, since the US was even more of a fascist, racist police state than it is now, they were at even greater a disadvantage.
Also, since the US was even more of a fascist, racist police state than it is now, they were at even greater a disadvantage.
I can't recognize the US citizens from what you are saying? Really, is it as bad as that? I can't picture the average US citizen as being capable to be a fascist. I may recognize fascists and racists in the far right movements, but then I think they have a few screws loose somewhere and most of what they do is not based on rational logic.
Well, i digress. Politics is all very subjective and reliant on perceptions and standards. I'm a mixture of a cynic and an extremist.
In the past, yes, America was fascist. Particularly during the cold war. I've said it before and i'll say it again. Stalinism, the ideology of the Soviet Union was a disgusting concept. It was totalitarian, it was statist, it was fascist. But through Anti-communism, America became what the Government claimed to be opposed to. "Dissenters" disappeared into the isolated wastes of Siberia in the Soviet Union, in America, "dissenters" disappeared into the dark, dank, untraceable depths of the US prison system. Freedom of speech was very restricted in both nations.
Is it fascist now? Not quite. But there is a threat. Don't think the "land of the free" is not on the brink of becoming the land of chains. The PATRIOT Act is the new anti-communist campaign. In Britain, we have "anti-terror" laws - they're both horribly repressive. STOP THEM NOW WHILE YOU STILL CAN. Petition your senator/congressman or -woman. Protest.
As for racism, it happens every day. The film "Crash" is actually fiction but it portrays some of the circumstances of racism. In the 1970s, the Black Panther Party, a group of libertarian Christian communists, grew up in Los Angeles to protect black people from the racist white supremacist police force. Acting completely within the law, they would patrol the neighbourhood and watch from a distance when the pigs arrested a black person. They would ensure the arrest was on legal grounds, that the prisoner wasn't abused, that unnecessary violence wasn't used and so on. They carried around a little statute book and heavy weapons to "police the police". They also worked on liberation schools (educating people in the ghetto), free school lunch schemes, and campaigned for community controlled policing, better housing and integration of black people into society. They were not themselves racist or in any way acting illegally, as the media claimed consistently. Also, the Government didn't want people to know that communism could involve so much freedom, so they had the media denounce them as anarchists. (I'd like to point out, i'm actually even more libertarian and freedom-loving than the Black Panther Party).
I have to agree then with being an extremist, the above has to be all on the extreme sides. I can't see the fifties as fascist. People in Government were genuinely concerned about Russian armaments and possibly their reaction did get tainted by the Russian fascism instead. Similar to terrorism and Government dealing with terrorism getting tainted by it too.
I have to agree then with being an extremist, the above has to be all on the extreme sides. I can't see the fifties as fascist. People in Government were genuinely concerned about Russian armaments and possibly their reaction did get tainted by the Russian fascism instead. Similar to terrorism and Government dealing with terrorism getting tainted by it too.
I bet the victims of the McCarthy Witch Hunts don't agree with you.
Good point, but that was something that was horribly wrong by the admission of the majority of people. Real fascism for me is Stalin getting rid of everyone around him, permanently.
Good point, but that was something that was horribly wrong by the admission of the majority of people. Real fascism for me is Stalin getting rid of everyone around him, permanently.
I absolutely agree Stalinism was fascism, but i also think that the McCarthy era was, in its own right, fascist.
I see a hint of it here right now. Some of those in power now would love to jail everyone from the past administration.
I like that comment. Almost as though people are looking into the past all the time. And McCarthy really goes way back. I'd like to call him some names, maybe autocrat in his Department, but I can't get a grip on fascist.
I find that actions speak louder than words. And McCarthy's anti-communist witch-hunts were merely America's version of the Siberian exile idea. Even the term "political prisoners" is a prerequisite for fascism. Nazi Germany had "political prisoners". The USSR had "political prisoners". Robespierre's France had "political prisoners".
Today, it is only jingoistic or imperialist nations that have any real number of political prisoners. The UK does. The US does. I'm warning - don't be trodden over by your Government. Don't sit there listening to politicians talking out of their rear ends. I'm concerned for the future.
Since I don't have much of a "future" I am not all that concerned. After our last election I think we will get just what we deserve. And I want no part in or of it.
To be fair and unrelentingly honest, some of us DO need to be concerned about the future.
True, but whose future? There seems to be much more emphasis on individual futures than concern for collective futures. And the collective futures initiatives seem to have a limited life of four years?
True, but whose future? There seems to be much more emphasis on individual futures than concern for collective futures. And the collective futures initiatives seem to have a limited life of four years?
Every four years, we "choose" the next group of lying hypocrites to rule over us. We don't, to be completely fair, really choose our own futures, do we?
Whose future are we talking about here? Specifically? Maybe you need to define the future you are talking about here.
And if I had a real future I would be very worried indeed. If things keep going as they are I would not trade a bottle beer for another 50 years of life.
Wouldn't you agree that it's almost a worldwide phenomenon? The crushing of the individual, i mean?
ABSOLUTELY! And yes, I do feel crushed. I was thinking about this very topic earlier in the day, about how everything is "mass" production, "mass" marketing. All the processes even "fresh" fruit and vegetables have to go through to finally get to the supermarket. Too much Government and also too much marketing. We are zapped right left and centre, and even the stuff we write is tainted with information coming from the media that we can never be sure about
ABSOLUTELY! And yes, I do feel crushed... even the stuff we write is tainted with information coming from the media that we can never be sure about
I often think that future generations will be able to see how we were controlled by the mainstream media, firstly, by the lies we were sold, secondly by the volume of Government and corporate propaganda in the mainstream media, and finally, by what we were not informed of.
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