Agreed.
Children dying is a larger tragedy, but the media you are correct, is caterwalling and many observers falling right in behind them.
Niether should we blame guns as many do here.....or pretend like we need some scientific study to ask why our culture is rotting from the inside out.
I see....so a better course would be something unscientific to study.
Hmmmm.....perhaps emotion?
Or, no study.....so we can just be stupid.
If the root problem is societal/cultural, an unscientific something is exactly what should be studied.
A study on why so many people have ignored the holocaust happening every single year but rather get emotional(your words not mine) following media caterwalling would be interesting, but irrelevant.
Oh, we're already being stupid. We've thrown studies at drug use, alcoholism, divorce, fatherless households, child abuse, and gun crime. Any focus on any cultural rot whatsoever gets hijacked on some socialist dream that government funded studies are required before a government mandated solution is rendered......to be scientific and what not.
In other words...We have yet to understand, and should simply stop trying.
That certainly exemplifies our human history.
Not exactly, blowing money to consult the academic world regarding an issue that is as clear as day is a waste of time, money, and resources.
It simply requires people to tank their heads from the sand open their eyes and ears and use the basic senses to observe the problem.
Thus gun ban distraction is just there so that the people who lie so blatantly to themselves can sleep the sleep of the just.
Go check out your nearest ghetto, hang out there for a few hours. Watch the children, the adults they look up to, the music they listen to the things they endeavor for. You will know the problem better. Its no mystery, I would be happy to explain it to you as a former student of psychology and a whiteness first hand of the vicious cycle that so many of our poor fellow Americans are part of.
But you must except that a person with out a phd is capable of reasoning skills and gaining knowledge, of you don't except that you are a contributor to the cycle, which I am happy to explain also.
We understand, many are too afraid or too ingrained in denial to admit it.
So does gun ownership
Often people are to tied up in the USA KGB known as political correctness to subscribe the problem properly.
Absurdities of today often become the rule. Guns were never the problem, people willing to use weapons in the commission of crime are exactly the problem.
Let me throw some 'science' of my own in here.....what I think cuts and slices at the edges of society, what I believe devalues our culture is what is responsible for much of the extraordinary violence we continue to see. Now....I ain't no rocket scientist....nor do I receive government funding thinking any answers whatsoever come from Washington DC. I believe the what I refer to above is a devaluing of life itself in this nation. I happen to see it everywhere, and do not excude myself. Society is much more rude. Language borders on between American sailor and Russian Cossack. Disrespect reigns supreme. I see the cultural rot, the less care for each other, look what we do to our most precious resource. We abandon, we abuse, and othersise neglect our children at holocaust levels given our free and supposedly educated nation. Our single parent household and fatherless children rates.....are a national embarrassment.
I've heard some say we moved from God. Others who point out the hate and rage between class and/or ethnicity. Still others want to spend alot more money to conduct studies on guns when a violect act occurs. Let me show you....I hope all can see, I have a subcrip to the Wall Street Journal but I think you can see this link.....this one is a shocker....and I think directly related to what I'm speaking to.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323375204578270053387770718.html
And not merely white educated women as the article points out.......All of our demographics seeing drops in birth rates, our families are being destroyed ladies and gentlemen. And if this countinues, all of this is over, imo. It ain't responsible for every violent act. It ain't the answer all. But this is an absolute slap in the face to America, you had better wake up, fellow Patriots. China installs it's own birth control, we've done it to ourselves. There is less respect for family and individual lives today, you see it everywhere. The bell has rung, society so far isn't answering.....and the answers surely ain't comin from this circus clown in the WHite House.
I've heard some say we moved from God. Others who point out the hate and rage between class and/or ethnicity. Still others want to spend alot more money to conduct studies on guns when a violect act occurs. Let me show you....I hope all can see, I have a subcrip to the Wall Street Journal but I think you can see this link.....this one is a shocker....and I think directly related to what I'm speaking to.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323375204578270053387770718.html
And not merely white educated women as the article points out.......All of our demographics seeing drops in birth rates, our families are being destroyed ladies and gentlemen. And if this countinues, all of this is over, imo. It ain't responsible for every violent act. It ain't the answer all. But this is an absolute slap in the face to America, you had better wake up, fellow Patriots. China installs it's own birth control, we've done it to ourselves. There is less respect for family and individual lives today, you see it everywhere. The bell has rung, society so far isn't answering.....and the answers surely ain't comin from this circus clown in the WHite House.
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The data is never complete. And not sure what you mean by the second sentence...
No I'm not. I am saying they are not necessarily political. Again attack the methodology not the funders or people.
The government wants in what sense? If in a political sense, then not true. Look at basic research at the NIH...
Again, If the government wants to fund a relatively unbiased study it can do so. Your issue is when political players try to influence a study, which is certainly possibility, but then that isn't the policy I am even supporting...
What does this all have to do with guns?
Either way, what does it have to do with family values either? Educated people tend to have less children- not just in this country, but around the world. And it has nothing to do with a lack of respect for family. I love my family tremendously and I believe in the family unit strongly, but I don't see myself having more than 2 kids- 3 tops.
The birth rate is concerning yes, but it isn't a hard issue to solve for the US- increase immigration. Tyler Cowen goes as far as to support a population increase to around 500 million.
Indeed, what does the Newtown shooting have to do with guns?
Seen one of your government funded 'studies' on urban violence and decay, myp?
It didn't just mention educated women. The birth rate is dropping for every demographic, you cannot maintain economic growth nor security given such a reality, you cannot maintain sociatal values that I think are at the very heart of gun violence and many other issues we face today.
Increase immigration so we can expand our welfare roles and government dependency rankings? The middle class needs to thrive. Education taken from special interests, demands muct be put on our children. See.....this is where you mistake our issues for a numbers game, our birth rate decline is just another symptom revealing the ultimate problem. Our families are disintegrating.
Show me a study or data that suggests it has to do with the family unit. The data from what I have seen is much more correlated to education and woman's empowerment than anything else. Sorry but there has been a lot of work done on the birth rate- in the light of that work your intuition matters very little.
Also you don't want immigration, but you want a higher birth rate? You understand that you pay welfare to American born citizens too right?
And if you can't see what a gun shooting has to do with guns, then I don't know what to tell you...
And once more you misunderstand how science operates. I'm not going into it again. Attack the METHODOLOGY, continuing to make character attacks makes you look silly.
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Earlier I wrote, "Scientists do not get funded by the regulatory agencies unless they are going to study and issue reports the government wants."
Is the NIH a regulatory agency? Yes, in a political sense there is a great living to be made if you can make the case that we need more government. Have you heard of any government sponsored research into how we can get by with less government?
It helps to begin in the beginning.
Earlier I wrote, "Can you imagine BATF spending a few tens of millions of dollars to study the defensive use of arms by citizens?
No. But you can imagine a study of gun violence.
If you choose not to understand this fundamental Golden Rule (He who has the gold makes the rules) you will not understand anything."
Earlier I wrote, "Can you imagine BATF spending a few tens of millions of dollars to study the defensive use of arms by citizens?
No. But you can imagine a study of gun violence.
If you choose not to understand this fundamental Golden Rule (He who has the gold makes the rules) you will not understand anything."
No doubt the government can waste dollars on whatever it wants to. I am not making the case that government officials try to influence the outcome of a particular study. Why do that when you can choose to fund the research that intend to make the case you want to make and not fund research that would give the opposing answer?
Actually, yes. Lots of it. Look at all the economics studies on markets and regulation which have Federal funding...
The thing is it isn't a "golden rule". It is just something you made up and have no proof of. Actually, it is quite a broad absolute statement and there are plenty of examples that disprove it.
Lol, so you think that the data and facts DO show that guns increase these crimes? You just basically said that. So then it is you that is trying to cover up the truth, isn't it?
Show me the study that absolutely (as in when applied to any country, culture, jurisdiction, etc.) suggests that in a statistically significant way.
What study? What do you always want a study, its common sense. Guns are inanimate objects, they cause nothing. They don't fly around and kill people.
But just to get this strait you want a study that shows that guns don't get up and commit crime all on their own? And you think I am irrational?
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