I guess I was saying I don't really trust some of the "science" I keep hearing and reading. Because I know some of them have their own agenda. I just wish it would get warm enough so I don't need to shovel my drive so much in winter.
If you are wary, then check the papers yourself (all the data, etc. is made public) or find a trustworthy source to do it (or just look up scientific criticisms of the paper in question because for bad, famous papers there is always scientific criticism from others and you can see the gaps there). Wariness is not an excuse for anti-intellectualism. The world isn't all intuitive
Why would I need an excuse?If you are wary, then check the papers yourself (all the data, etc. is made public) or find a trustworthy source to do it (or just look up scientific criticisms of the paper in question because for bad, famous papers there is always scientific criticism from others and you can see the gaps there). Wariness is not an excuse for anti-intellectualism. The world isn't all intuitive
Why would I need an excuse?
Because anti-intellectualism is stupid, naive, and foolish. There I said it.
Just because some people in a field are arrogant, annoying, greedy, or whatever does not mean everyone is. In fact, most large groups of people have such members- even the anti-intellectuals (perhaps more so considering all of the dictators that preached ideas as a means to control). You can't classify intellectualism as arrogant because a few members are arrogant and you also cannot say those few members are wrong just because they are arrogant. Would you agree with that?At times yes, at other times maybe not. Some intellectuals seem really arrogant. Those people could not convince of anything.
Dodge, real scientists don't just write a paper on it. They do substantial research, they spend large chunks of their time and often lives perfecting an experiment until empirical evidence is found. Ironically, if you oversaw said experiments (or read the papers that you so easily criticize) you would probably say the data is undeniable because it is based on experience- on things you can see.I don't think so.
As for pain- what he said is true. That does not make the pain any less real. It is all messages sent through your nerves to your brain chemically and the pain is something your brain makes. That is true for all of us, not just you Dodge.
I find it ironic that you are annoyed at your doc for not writing your pain meds because of what I think you see as arrogant intellectualism when those meds would never even have been invented had it not been for sound experiments conducted by scientists. Most of those meds wouldn't even have been an option a few hundred years ago.
It actually makes little difference to me anyway. I have read some of the papers (I really have not lived under a rock for 60 years.) I have just been abused and disappointed by so many that I am hard to convince. I have been lied to by everyone from family members, preachers, doctors and big business. You know the old saying about "fool me once.................
It actually makes little difference to me anyway. I have read some of the papers (I really have not lived under a rock for 60 years.) I have just been abused and disappointed by so many that I am hard to convince. I have been lied to by everyone from family members, preachers, doctors and big business. You know the old saying about "fool me once.................
I am sorry that you have, but that isn't enough reason to blame all intellectuals (and preachers, family members, and big business [hell even docs] might not be intellectuals depending on who it is). You have been mistreated by people in general, not just intellectuals. And that is unfortunate, but it is not reason to hold a grudge against an entire set of people for the mistakes of a few. That is the very sentiment that fuels racism, sexism, etc.
And through it all it stands that the world is not completely intuitive. Anyone who has taken a intro physics class or who might have been born not knowing the world was a sphere probably knows it. That is most of us.
You would've rather been in the stone age?Well it's their world, I just had the misfortune to be living in it.
I would sure rather be in the 50s or 60s. There was a place for me in that world.
The 50s and 60s were the great Keynesian experiment in some sense. It is an experiment that started to fail in the 70s and we continue to see the stupidity of such thought. It is what has driven the size of government to get larger, it has what has driven more special interests in government, and stupidity like stimulus plans.
From a technological standpoint, the 50s and 60s were still very sophisticated mostly in part due to intellectualism and the great creations of inventors past. Again, don't blame all the benefits you got (even though it is often easier to forget them than the bad) just because some people mistreated you.
That is not a logical position though unless you care about no one other than yourself. How about the government today just sends everyone billion dollar checks? We might live good for a few years, but then it is over. Even worse, under some similar plan we might live awesome lives but leave the misery and cost to our children. Do you really think that is better just because you were happy when the government sent you the billion $ check?
Not asking for a check. I had two living children in the 70s and 80s. I had a healthy family and a future. What is logical about me wishing My dead daughter was living and my wife was healthy? I don't think you understand what I am saying. You seem to take life as a bunch of data. My life is more than data to me.
Are you or are you not saying that the 50s and 60s were a better time in terms of how the world was, how the government was, how policy was, etc.? Or are you just saying you wish you had your old family back because that is not a matter of policy (most likely) and not anything against intellectualism?
