Huntsman says rejecting evolution, climate change is not a winning formula

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How do "they" not leave you alone?
Many ways. But mostly pushing "intellectualism"on every subject gets old. Most people's lives are not a classroom. I live on opinions,feelings, and yes even emotions. But I am constantly "reminded" of how I am wrong and should be more accepting of "intellectualism". There was a time in this country when people were allowed to have their very own opinions without a automatic lecture on why that is just wrong and they can't really feel that way.
 

myp

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Many ways. But mostly pushing "intellectualism"on every subject gets old. Most people's lives are not a classroom. I live on opinions,feelings, and yes even emotions. But I am constantly "reminded" of how I am wrong and should be more accepting of "intellectualism". There was a time in this country when people were allowed to have their very own opinions without a automatic lecture on why that is just wrong and they can't really feel that way.
Um people always disagreed on many matters. Even in your day, there were arguments about things. People clash on ideas all the time and they always have. This is nothing new.

Ironically, it happens even more often in politics- the left in your day told the right they were wrong and vice-versa too.
 
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Um people always disagreed on many matters. Even in your day, there were arguments about things. People clash on ideas all the time and they always have. This is nothing new.

Ironically, it happens even more often in politics- the left in your day told the right they were wrong and vice-versa too.
Okay. But it usually did not come up in everyday conversation. But back then it was considered rude to argue politics and religion all the time. Most people would not even ask you who you voted for. And you would not tell them if they asked. But politics be damned it is hard to just have a conversion anymore without a lecture like you are a school kid.
 

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Okay. But it usually did not come up in everyday conversation. But back then it was considered rude to argue politics and religion all the time. Most people would not even ask you who you voted for. And you would not tell them if they asked. But politics be damned it is hard to just have a conversion anymore without a lecture like you are a school kid.

Maybe you are talking to the wrong people. I find the opposite problem in my life, probably because of my age. Most of my friends don't give a damn about what is happening and as a result have no clue. They will probably not find out until they hold jobs, etc. and see the damage being done firsthand. Sometimes I wish I had your problem for the sake of my generation's future.
 
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Maybe you are talking to the wrong people. I find the opposite problem in my life, probably because of my age. Most of my friends don't give a damn about what is happening and as a result have no clue. They will probably not find out until they hold jobs, etc. and see the damage being done firsthand. I wish I had your problem.
I wish you did too. I wish you could live my life for a week and see what you think.:p

Good night. I am lots older than you and I am tired.
 
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Kudos to him. One thing that always bugged me about the Republican party was their [general] view on evolution..........

What views would that be?

Only a rare few Fundamentalists believe the world is 10,000 years old, if that is what you are referring to. Thats because they read Genesis 1 the way 21st century Westerners read science books. But 21st century Westerners didn't write it, and its not a science book.

Genesis 1 is meant primarily to teach one thing: That God created everything out of nothing, that he created man in his own image, that man separated himself from God through disobedience, and that God immediately set about the long (or at least it seems long to us) process of healing that rift, a process which culminated with the death and resurrection of Christ. That is all it teaches. Everything in Genesis 1 is meant to convey that truth, but it is done in the ancient Semitic style of writing, using allegories, hyperbole, fantastic imagery, and all based on traditions that were handed down for centuries. Exegetes worth their salt do not believe there was an actual serpent, or a tree, or a garden, etc. These are all images & allegories, in a certain style of writing, meant to convey the fundamental truth I stated above.

Now, that does NOT meant that Genesis is mere lore or some story with a moral message. It IS all true, but the truth is not written the way we write history today, with all our facts and dates and times all neatly lined up in a linear fashion.

So, insofar as evolution can fit in with God creating everything, then much of it is acceptable. There is a big difference between evolution, and evolution out of nothing as atheists believe.

I think you'll find that most Republicans agree with this. I think you have been buying into bogus media charichatures of what Republicans believe on this issue.
 

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Some of the top Republican candidates have not said they accept evolution when asked. Evolution as in man came from earlier primates, which there is all too much proof to deny.
 
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Some of the top Republican candidates have not said they accept evolution when asked. Evolution as in man came from earlier primates, which there is all too much proof to deny.

That is because, in daily-speak for the average Joe, "evolution" means evolution out of nothing: In other words, an atheist Godless view of creation. That is why they are rejecting it. Most folks don't take time to parse the differences as I did above.

It would be interesting if the media would flip the script and ask liberals if they believe in God, and if so, do they believe God created all things.
 
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