This is just ridiculous.
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it is never right to force believes on people. schools should not be involved in it. there is a separation from church and state. same reason church can't be involved in school, school can't be involved in church.
why shouldn't we respect each other's believes weather we agree or not. creating the thought police is the end of freedom.
why shouldn't we respect each other's believes weather we agree or not. creating the thought police is the end of freedom.
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If you want to get down to the root problem here, it stems from the Evangelical and Fundamentalists Christians who believe in the "literal" translation of the Bible. For example; when the Bible states the world was made in seven days, they believe it was seven, 24 hour days. While most view the Bible in a figurative and allegorical fashion, the literalists use their own hermeneutical approach to interpreting scripture.
This has become a political issue now as the far religious right has all but taken over the Republican party, enforcing their own beliefs into its platform.
If you want to get down to the root problem here, it stems from the Evangelical and Fundamentalists Christians who believe in the "literal" translation of the Bible. For example; when the Bible states the world was made in seven days, they believe it was seven, 24 hour days. While most view the Bible in a figurative and allegorical fashion, the literalists use their own hermeneutical approach to interpreting scripture.
This has become a political issue now as the far religious right has all but taken over the Republican party, enforcing their own beliefs into its platform.
I agree, and would point out the denial of scientifically validated and universally accepted fact borders on willful ignorance. This is certainly not something we should be instilling in our children if we expect to compete on the global stage.
Our schools have enough problems, there is no logic in making up new ones.
Because these aren't "beliefs". Evolution is fact. Unless you also want to contest gravity, germs, thermodynamics, etc. too.
Let me put it this way- if some kid answers 1+1=3 on a test and the teacher isn't allowed to fail him because he believes that 1+1 does actually equal 3, then is that okay with you too? What is the point of tests at all then if anything goes?
so why force the belief that evolution.
the only thing we know is that we don't know. seculars like evolution believe because it supports their religion.
your mouth question is a definite, the only thing we know about origin of the species is that we don't know anything about the origin of the species.
so your religion in your beliefs are yours to have, but you can't force them on other people. you would be no better than the Spanish Inquisition.
The article says that students are not exempt from being tested on textbook material and conservative students may have to pretend that evolution and global warming are established facts when they take science tests and teachers are at least banned from giving them an F based on their political orientation or what they said in classroom discussions.
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that does a disservice to education. If I can make you believe what I want you to believe, or you can act like you're programmed, did education is a programming tool, not education.
but I personally believe that " education" is to program you into secularism. Which is a religion.
if there were any facts to price one way or the other, this debate wouldn't occur. Much like 1+1=2, nobody debates that, because there is proof.
facts are things that can be proven, schools have no business teaching a believe weather it's evolution or creation or any other thing you can come up with.
evolution is a tenant of the secular religion, they insist that it's fact without proof, that's called faith.
the truth which schools should teach is that we don't know. you can't teach what you don't know. so this debate about whether or not schools can program children to believe a certain religion
Evolution is not a religion. It is FACT. And there is A LOT of proof. From fossil records to the observation of microbial evolution and mutation (including speciation) to the similarity in different life forms to the distribution of various species, the evidence is quite abundant. What proof do you have that dinosaurs lived with humans or that God "intelligently" designed anything? In comparison to what we have for evolution, nothing.
evolution is not a fact it's a belief, part of the tenant to the religion of secular.
I have no proof that God exists, I don't have any need to prove God exists, that's just another belief like evolution.
you're the 1 claiming your religion in fact. your circumstantial evidence is not conclusive.
So bacteria evolving before our eyes, selective breeding programs, the changes in animal populations observed over the last 100 years... How is that not proof?
because it's only 100 years, for evolution to explain life, from nothing into something would require magic. you have faith in magic.
Evolution occurs, but did it create life, we don't know.
Some claim they know, some claim God made us and they know that, some claim we evolved from nothingness. Both seem preposterous to me.
Of course the belief you have is absolute fact, that is how belief works. Nobody believes they are wrong. I am the only one who knows he is right. Because I don't know.
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The origin of life and evolution aren't the same thing. Evolution simply explains why we're not all primordial ooze or why manatees have toenails. The origin of life is still up in the air, partially because it could have started multiple times independently making any single answer unlikely.
as I understand it, that's really the debate. some people say evolution is the origin of life. that's what the teach in school. creationism in this case didn't really have anything to do whatsoever with evolution. any creation story that I know of, doesn't say everything is exactly the same as it always has been.
someone brought up God and creationism, and proof that God exists. when evolution is spoken about in tandem with creationism it's typically regarding how one's better than the other.
If the beginning of life is still up in the air, then creation has noting to do with evolution, they don't contradict, they don't conflict. Creation is a religious belief about the origin of life. Evolution is the study of some bacteria over a hundred years, nothing to do with each other.
The problem with creationism isn't that god created everything. If it was some people would respectfully disagree but there would be no controversy for lack of a solid contradiction. The problem with creationism is that it does claim all life was created as is and in less then a week. This is an evolutionary (and physical) impossibility and thus the controversy.
Creationist evolution (god created the primordial ooze then backed off) keeps the issues separate in the way you described but most creationists are IDers. If more creationists would accept the reality of evolution and stop taking Genesis literally all sorts of issues would be resolved but there are too many literalists in the creationist camp that makes the whole idea impossible for the scientifically minded to accept.
if someone wants to believe that, let them. they're going to anyway. 6 days or 6 minutes who cares. people who take the Bible literally are not the brightest bunch anyway.
I don't really needed answer to this question, I'm perfectly okay not knowing.
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